Quoting Kevin Coed:

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The reason AHel has disappeared from this thread :- he's been busy changing his vote to 'no'.

Your point being?

I asked for clarification on a couple issues in my original post. Although I may not personally agree 100% with the outcome I changed my vote to follow the contribution rules.

Personally I'm with Darxon on the overview and there are clearly no rules covering the video features of the profile.

Quoting Darxon:

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Nope. The rules state that if there is no OVERVIEW on the back cover, you can write one of your own. Now, as long as we're all clear on what constiutes an overview (IMO a short summary of the film's content) and the back cover doesn't provide that, but the included booklet does, it's fine and within the rules to take that overview from there. I think that taking the overview provided elsewhere in the DVD than the backcover is preferrable to creating one on your own. And the blurp on the back-cover of the box set tells you nothing about the movies. If it was printed on the back-cover of an individual release of one of the titles, you could very well argue to leave it out, as it's not an overview but an advertising bit.

But in this particular case there is an overview, which describes the contents of the boxset. So that's what should have been used.

Quoting skipnet50:

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Ahels:

The reason that Video Formats are not YET in the Rules is that under 2.X Video data was a Required entry for Contribution, this no longer true. What you can do for Video that I would NOT argue with is list basic Video information. In other words if it is Widescreen simplky check the Box for widescreen. The reason for the rules being as they are relative to boxsets and this includes Video, is that NOT all movies in a given Boxset will necessarily have the SAME specifications.  In short if yo don't list ANY Aspect Ratio data I would think foir now you will be OK, but keep in mind that once the Rules catch up, this will join the rest of the Boxset data as a no-no.

Skip

I am bumping this old thread just to point out that there has been a revision of the Contribution Rules in October but the Box Set rule has not been changed. So, let's read the Rules as they are and not as someone thinks they should be. Presently, there is nothing against entering Video Format data in a box set profile, assuming it's common to all the movies in the box, even if it's redundant information.

Besides, I don't understand why you would list "Widescreen" (assuming it's common to all the movies in the box) but not the Aspect Ratio (assuming it's common to all the movies in the box, of course).
I would either not enter any Video format data, as it's redundant, or enter all the data that's common to all the movies in the box.

Quoting mdnitoil:

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It would seem that the screeners are pretty flexible on this subject as I have personally cleaned up a number of box set parents in the last six months and removed all video information, as well as other stuff.  It gets accepted every time.

I remove video information from box sets as well with no problem getting them accepted. I mean, come on, it's not like the box has a video format...it's just a container after all.

Quoting EnryWiki:

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Quoting skipnet50:

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Ahels:

The reason that Video Formats are not YET in the Rules is that under 2.X Video data was a Required entry for Contribution, this no longer true. What you can do for Video that I would NOT argue with is list basic Video information. In other words if it is Widescreen simplky check the Box for widescreen. The reason for the rules being as they are relative to boxsets and this includes Video, is that NOT all movies in a given Boxset will necessarily have the SAME specifications.  In short if yo don't list ANY Aspect Ratio data I would think foir now you will be OK, but keep in mind that once the Rules catch up, this will join the rest of the Boxset data as a no-no.

Skip

I am bumping this old thread just to point out that there has been a revision of the Contribution Rules in October but the Box Set rule has not been changed. So, let's read the Rules as they are and not as someone thinks they should be. Presently, there is nothing against entering Video Format data in a box set profile, assuming it's common to all the movies in the box, even if it's redundant information.

Besides, I don't understand why you would list "Widescreen" (assuming it's common to all the movies in the box) but not the Aspect Ratio (assuming it's common to all the movies in the box, of course).
I would either not enter any Video format data, as it's redundant, or enter all the data that's common to all the movies in the box.

You are absolutely right, of course! Some people's "intent" is all well and good, but the rules specifically address the fields that shouldn't be entered for parent profiles. Video format is NOT amongst them. Like you, I find it absolutely absurd how some people feel that adding "Widescreen" is okay, while leaving out the aspect ratio (assuming that it's identical for all movies in the set, of course). Surely, the justification for ticking "widescreen" is the exact same justification for including the aspect ratio. Bottom line: as of yet, it's allowed per the rules. Anything else is just a personal preference which should be kept local.

I do see your point, Skip. And let me assure you: if and when the rule changes, I'll be among the first to update all my parent profiles. But up until then... Aren't you the one who always keep saying that poll results don't make it okay to break the rules? Let me quote something I was told in another recent thread:

Quoting Addicted2DVD:

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If you want a change from that... all you can do is petition for a rules change... then wait for Ken's decision on the matter.

This applies here as well. You seem to have decided for yourself that this piece of data doesn't belong in box set profiles. That's fine, but it remains your personal preference, which is not backed up by the rules at all. I don't mind what you do locally, but for online purposes, this is allowed. Removing this piece of data, or voting against an update that's trying to add it - as I have seen you do! - is a blatant violation of the rules.

Quoting 8ballMax:

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I remove video information from box sets as well with no problem getting them accepted. I mean, come on, it's not like the box has a video format...it's just a container after all.

I have no problem either way, but I think you might end up receiving NO votes both if you add such data and if you remove them, because the Rules don't really say anything on that.


EDIT:  Thinking it over, let's just leave out that redundant information, regardless.