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DVD Profiler Desktop and Mobile RegistrantTouti
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There is no "substring search" there.  I'm in no way talking about the Filters here.  I'm talking about typing a title when the focus is on the collection list.
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My bad - I didn't even know you could continue typing!
So it is the same problem. Basically, when you type something it compares it to the DVD title, not the sort title.
Maybe we should request a feature where you can choose which one it checks.

Edit: just noticed you already have! 
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Basically, when you type something it compares it to the DVD title, not the sort title.

If this was all it was I wouldn't be too concerned, but per my previous example, it doesn't just use the DVD title. It seems to actually remember the old sort title.

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I have the same problem here, when typing something on the keyboard, I get something else. I wonder if this is a leftover from the days before the sort titles were made private and the old sort titles are still lurking in the system somewhere...
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What's the UPC of your Diamonds profile?
I've tried editing titles to get them to repeat this behaviour, but with all of mine, the change in title is reflected by pressing keys immediately.
I have however noticed some other strange behaviour. When I press "J", I assume it will go to "Jacob's Ladder", but instead it goes to "Jamaica Inn" which is way down in the Ms under my "Master of Suspense" boxset, where it has a sort title of "Hitchcock Disc 3".
It looks like what happens is you press the first letter of the title and it searches your collection in sort title order, until it finds a match in the DVD title field. It's very odd that it would mix both fields like that, searching by sort title, but checking the dvd title. 
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While viewing my Collection List, if I type a "D", for example, it goes to Da Vinci Code, my first "D" movie, alphabetically.  However, if I type an "M", it goes to Blazing Saddles.  I presume, of course, it's going there because it's Mel Brooks' Blazing Saddles.  However, I have edited the DVD Title and Sort Title to just Blazing Saddles (Mel Brooks is removed), so where is it finding the "M"?

Mike


I tried to reproduce your error but could not.  I removed 'Mel Brooks' from the DVD title and, when I typed 'Me', it did not show up.  It did, however, show up when I typed 'Bl'.  I am not sure why it isn't working on your system.  I did not have to restart or anything...it just worked right away. 
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Just for the avoidance of doubt has everybody checked the original title field to see what's in there? The filter also checks this field when listing titles, i.e. I entered Mel into it (and no other title field) and typing it into the filter bought up Blazing Saddles, I removed it & Mel did not find it.
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Just for the avoidance of doubt has everybody checked the original title field to see what's in there? The filter also checks this field when listing titles, i.e. I entered Mel into it (and no other title field) and typing it into the filter bought up Blazing Saddles, I removed it & Mel did not find it.



Original title is empty on the ones I tested with.
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Just for the avoidance of doubt has everybody checked the original title field to see what's in there? The filter also checks this field when listing titles, i.e. I entered Mel into it (and no other title field) and typing it into the filter bought up Blazing Saddles, I removed it & Mel did not find it.



Original title is empty on the ones I tested with.


Same here...empty 'Original Title' field.
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I just tried the repair and it didn't fix it.  I don't think it's a problem anyhwere with the data, it really seems to be the way the program works.



When you change the way the system sorts, so have to hit the choice to clear all fiedls first.

Far as I know there are no bugs in the numbering system.  It's all a matter of picking the right combinations so it runs right.
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What's the UPC of your Diamonds profile?

027616853929 (I have the "normal" version - i.e. not the Canadian or Korean version)

The DVD Title field says: Diamonds Are Forever
The Original Title field is empty.
The Sort Title field says: Diamonds Are Forever

In an attempt at trouble shooting, I've renamed all three fields to "blah", saved the profiled, exited the program, launched the program and it still goes to the same profile (now titled "blah") when I hit J. Same exact thing happens when I put the proper title back in.

Boggles the hell out of me.

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The is 4 fields in the collection.dat file.

NAME, The movie title, used to loate in the collection list.
SORT_NAME, Also used to lcoate
LOC_SORT_NAME, What you put in the sort title
ORIGINAL_NAME, original title

I've been experimenting with this.  No matter what you put in the title and sort title fields, the SORT_NAME fields always contains the movies title.  Locates seems to be done on the NAME and the SORT_NAME fields but NOT on LOC_SORT_NAME which apparently is only used to control the order in which the movies are displayed.

Example:  The first movie title in my collection that starts with a P is "Papillion".  I changed the title to "abcde" and the sort title to "test", the file ended up as follows.

NAME: abcde
SORT_NAME: Papillon
LOC_SORT_NAME: test
ORIGINAL_NAME: (blank)

If I type "abc" or "pap" it locates the movie, however typing "test" does not find it which confirms that what we type is only compared with the current title in your collection and the "real" title of the movie which never changes.
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I seem to be having this problem as well - when I press "T", I am taken to "The Abominable Dr Phibes" - I presume because of the "The".
However when I edit the DVD title and remove the "The" and press "T" again, I am taken to "The Addams Family" next.
So editing the title does seem to make a difference for me, however it would be much more useful if this feature used the sort title instead of the DVD title.


Turn off the leading article function, and it will ignore the 'The' when doing a search.
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What's the UPC of your Diamonds profile?

027616853929 (I have the "normal" version - i.e. not the Canadian or Korean version)

The DVD Title field says: Diamonds Are Forever
The Original Title field is empty.
The Sort Title field says: Diamonds Are Forever

In an attempt at trouble shooting, I've renamed all three fields to "blah", saved the profiled, exited the program, launched the program and it still goes to the same profile (now titled "blah") when I hit J. Same exact thing happens when I put the proper title back in.

Boggles the hell out of me.

KM



Like I said, there are no bugs I'm aware of.  Default behavior is, far as I'm aware, to display titles in the order they are added to your local - which roughly corresponds to date added.  Default sorting is on the Title field UNLESS there is something in the Sort Title field, in which case THAT is used to sort.

The reason to rerun the Reassign Collection Numbers and Sort by Title is so that you don't have gaps in the numbering sequence if you want them sorted in alphabetic order.  There is no single RIGHT way to do sorting and numbering - everybody has their own preferences.  So, just because it isn't the way you  (the whoever 'you') doesn't mean there are bugs in the system.
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The is 4 fields in the collection.dat file.

NAME, The movie title, used to loate in the collection list.
SORT_NAME, Also used to lcoate
LOC_SORT_NAME, What you put in the sort title
ORIGINAL_NAME, original title

I've been experimenting with this.  No matter what you put in the title and sort title fields, the SORT_NAME fields always contains the movies title.  Locates seems to be done on the NAME and the SORT_NAME fields but NOT on LOC_SORT_NAME which apparently is only used to control the order in which the movies are displayed.

Example:  The first movie title in my collection that starts with a P is "Papillion".  I changed the title to "abcde" and the sort title to "test", the file ended up as follows.

NAME: abcde
SORT_NAME: Papillon
LOC_SORT_NAME: test
ORIGINAL_NAME: (blank)

If I type "abc" or "pap" it locates the movie, however typing "test" does not find it which confirms that what we type is only compared with the current title in your collection and the "real" title of the movie which never changes.


If you look at your field names, you'll see that LOC_SORT_NAME corresponds to 'Sort Title' in your LOCAL database, and it is only used if you make an entry there.  Otherwise, it defaults to the same as the NAME field - the 'Title' field.  The SORT_NAME, unless I miss my guess, is used by the online to sort your uploaded files, and corresponds to the original entered title.

The search function, as you surmise, does NOT utilize the 'Sort Title' field.  Ex:  I have the three Matrix movies plus Animatrix, listed as 'Matrix 0' through 'Matrix 3' in my database.  A search using Matrix brings up the three movies that have Matrix in the actual title.  If I add the number, ie. 'Matrix 2', all the thumbnails for the three movies disappear, and it finds nothing.  Tried the same thing with several other sequences like that all with the same result.
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If you look at your field names, you'll see that LOC_SORT_NAME corresponds to 'Sort Title' in your LOCAL database, and it is only used if you make an entry there.  Otherwise, it defaults to the same as the NAME field - the 'Title' field.  The SORT_NAME, unless I miss my guess, is used by the online to sort your uploaded files, and corresponds to the original entered title.

The search function, as you surmise, does NOT utilize the 'Sort Title' field.  Ex:  I have the three Matrix movies plus Animatrix, listed as 'Matrix 0' through 'Matrix 3' in my database.  A search using Matrix brings up the three movies that have Matrix in the actual title.  If I add the number, ie. 'Matrix 2', all the thumbnails for the three movies disappear, and it finds nothing.  Tried the same thing with several other sequences like that all with the same result.


Isn't that exactly what I wrote ?
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