Quoting skipnet50:

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But Andrew you and Hal keep pointing out that Forum agreements have no force and cannot be used.

Skip

I though their argument was that forum agreements had no force to override an existing rule.  There's no rule on common name yet, right?  Or am I mistaken?

I don't think it's that bizarre.  Here's how I see it.  There's no rule, and we need to do SOMETHING.  There's been a lot of dissonance over the actual parsing.  There is a lot of agreement on the "maiden" name thing (although I agree with you 100% on stage names taking precedence).  Seems like some kind of uneasy truce.  It's better than anarchy and Ken can use this to formulate a written rule.  I really like the participation Ken has had since the 3.0 release, so I think we're making progress.  That's my opinion, anyway.

Personally, I have my "Jada//Pinkett"'s already done in my local and ready to upload with "credited as".  Just wanting for a consensus.

Quoting skipnet50:

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this is only a recommendation to a procedure, the ONLY person that can do otherwise is Ken.
He may decide to go in a different direction. <shrugs>

Skip

Of course that is true, but the polls do display the general concensus of forum users, which in turn could be considered a representation of all users.
I am sure Ken would at least consider such information as part of his decision making process.

RR

Quoting Tracer:

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Didn't Ken or Geri say we could use multiple sources for common name submissions.  Isn't Ivelos a source, we have a DB that we can use the get data from current profiles (one source) and we have this forum (another source).

Don't let logic get in the way

Steve

Quoting Tracer:

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Didn't Ken or Geri say we could use multiple sources for common name submissions.  Isn't Ivelos a source, we have a DB that we can use the get data from current profiles (one source) and we have this forum (another source).

I would give you a qualified yes Tracey. The qualification would be that somewhere along the way there has to be a documented reference. In other words llet's say you want to cross reference to "Sleepy Hollow", then that title should have as part of its notes the additional documnetation that leads to H//BC or whatever. Did I make that clear.

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Stuart:

Valid point then that user may not be able to provide a cross-reference, right, so he should document the change. No biggie.

Skip

Quoting skipnet50:

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But Andrew you and Hal keep pointing out that Forum agreements have no force and cannot be used.

Skip

What I have said is that forum agreements cannot over-ride the Current Rules.

I have never said that forum consensus cannot be reached for areas that are either gray or are not addressed at all, like parsing!

On her birth Cert it will say Bonham Carter under Surname not Surnames it's one name so can't be split over 2 names. Germany even has laws about this to allow us brits to have names that's Germans can't. If she gets married she will not be Helen Bonham (Spouses Surname)