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Sandra Bullock [Ida Flammenbaum] as Herself is correct.

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This was on page 10 of this thread:

Quoting Ken Cole:

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Sandra Bullock [Ida Flammenbaum] as Herself is correct.

That's it. End of discussion. Matter resolved. And yet 6 pages later here we are. 

Skip, how do you expect anyone to have any respect for you or listen to what you say when you behave like this?

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I am now tyring to correct such an erronious listing in 'Miss Congeniality' (have a look at UPC 012569-593312 if you want to see for yourself), and I'm getting a "no"-vote from Skip, saying: "I believe you have misinterpreted Ken's remark, the CA listing presErves the filmmaker's intent whatever that is."

Once again, I'm doing EXACTLY as Ken clarified. Here's the screenshot:



Like Ken said: if the only indication of Name/Role is left/right, I would lean towards allowing the credit to be entered as name: "Bob Smith", role: "Himself". As you can see, that's exactly what's happening here. The current profile, indeed submitted by Skip, abuses the "credited as" feature in the manner described in this thread, using "Herself" as the actress' name and "Ida Flammenbaum" as the role name. I am now trying to correct this "Herself" as "Ida Flammenbaum" entry to "Ida Flammenbaum" as "Herself", exactly like Ken told us to do, even supplying a link to Ken's clarification in my notes. If I'm wrong, I'd love to hear it, but I'm 100% convinced that I'm doing EXACTLY what Ken told us to do.

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if the only indication of Name/Role is left/right, I would lean towards allowing the credit to be entered as name: "Bob Smith", role: "Himself".

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This breakthrough has been mentioned a few times and was given an official stamp on page 10 of this thread. If you can get on board now, you'll only be 6 pages late. 

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So according to you Man in the crowd is the Credited Name and the Tim Clark is the role. Incredible. Now that certainly puts a whole new look to credits. How do we parse Venetian Singer #3?

There's nothing in the rules that says all names entered for a film must come from the same column and all roles entered for a film must come from the same column. It's not an all-or-nothing situation. When film credits flip the order in which they show names and roles, as they do with people who play themselves, we are given the flexibility, as confirmed by Ken Cole, to follow the information in the credits as it switches columns so that the data entered into Ken's program is accurate and useful.

This breakthrough has been mentioned a few times and was given an official stamp on page 10 of this thread. If you can get on board now, you'll only be 6 pages late. 

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I am now tyring to correct such an erronious listing in 'Miss Congeniality' (have a look at UPC 012569-593312 if you want to see for yourself), and I'm getting a "no"-vote from Skip, saying: "I believe you have misinterpreted Ken's remark, the CA listing presErves the filmmaker's intent whatever that is."

Once again, I'm doing EXACTLY as Ken clarified. Here's the screenshot:



Like Ken said: if the only indication of Name/Role is left/right, I would lean towards allowing the credit to be entered as name: "Bob Smith", role: "Himself". As you can see, that's exactly what's happening here. The current profile, indeed submitted by Skip, abuses the "credited as" feature in the manner described in this thread, using "Herself" as the actress' name and "Ida Flammenbaum" as the role name. I am now trying to correct this "Herself" as "Ida Flammenbaum" entry to "Ida Flammenbaum" as "Herself", exactly like Ken told us to do, even supplying a link to Ken's clarification in my notes. If I'm wrong, I'd love to hear it, but I'm 100% convinced that I'm doing EXACTLY what Ken told us to do.

ROFLMAO, Hal.

So according to you Man in the crowd is the Credited Name and the Tim Clark is the role. Incredible. Now that certainly puts a whole new look to credits. How do we parse Venetian Singer #3?

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