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Quoting skipnet50:

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James Bond 04 is not useful to most users, they would be looking for Thunderball

That's right, same as looking for "The Birds" and not "Alfred Hitchcock's The Birds"

Quoting Lopek

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...are we agreed that it is "The Birds"?

Looks like there is a majority agreement in this thread toward that end.  The submission was withdrawn anyway, wasn't it?  (don't own that one)

Nice try since this point was not about Title but Sort, dj. You can still sort The Birds, LOCALLY, James Bond 04 has NOTHING to do with TITLE.

mdnitoil see my comment above. I presume you do KNOW how to set your sort...YES.

@kahless: i agree, sadly we have a number of people who simply refuse to get it, and others who....well I don't want to conitinue.  Oh well, it's all essentially irrelevant to me anyway since I am no longer Contributing. But the behavior around here leaves a lot to be desired.

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mdnitoil see my comment above. I presume you do KNOW how to set your sort...YES.

Yes, I know how to set my sort, thanks for asking though.

To put it differently, a movie store could sort all of Alfred Hitchock's films under "A".  They could also do the same with, well, whatever other films they might have.  How many people are going to be able to actually find the films they're shopping for?  I wonder how long this store will stay in business?

Every now and then, you just have to step back and ask yourself, "Does this even make sense?"  Obviously this question wasn't properly asked for this profile, or if it was, folks got so wrapped in the minutia of the decision, they never looked at the big picture.

Just out of curiousity skip, now armed with this new information regarding how Hitchcock credited his films, have you renamed all your Hitchcock films locally?  For that matter, has anybody out there felt compelled to rename all their Hitchcock films locally to "Alfred Hitchcock's....?"  I know, skip and others will tell me what people do locally has no bearing on what goes into the online.  But if absolutely nobody will commit to this possessive rule across the board locally, why would we force the online to do it?  It doesn't make any sense.

Ah, so this is one of those where he says the opposite of what he thinks to prove that everyone disagrees with him things. 

I've just been having another look at this profile, and I'm wondering if maybe whoever suggested that this is a modified title way back in the thread somewhere is right?

While I'm in definite agreement that the title of the film is "The Birds", the "Alfred Hitchcock's" on the DVD cover is very dominant, so I'm starting to wonder if the modified title rule should be applied in this case?

As I don't have this version, I can't check the cover, spine etc. personally, but I think whoever suggested that it's a modified title could be right!

I think this does not bring us anywhere.

Who is there to decide when a possessive is dominant enough to qualify ?

KISS (Keep it simple and stupid), therefore it is 'The Birds'.

Quoting northbloke:

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I've just been having another look at this profile, and I'm wondering if maybe whoever suggested that this is a modified title way back in the thread somewhere is right?

While I'm in definite agreement that the title of the film is "The Birds", the "Alfred Hitchcock's" on the DVD cover is very dominant, so I'm starting to wonder if the modified title rule should be applied in this case?

As I don't have this version, I can't check the cover, spine etc. personally, but I think whoever suggested that it's a modified title could be right!

I believe this is true for ANY DVD that the cover don't match the credits.

the Modified Title Rule Says...

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The Original Title field will contain the original theatrical title, while the Title field will contain the title of the DVD release.  For instance, for the Special Edition rerelease of There's Something About Mary:

    * Title: There's Something More About Mary
    * Original Title: There's Something About Mary

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Says right there where I put in bold.  and then gives an example of one with the special edition rerelease of There's Something about Mary.

And before anyone says differently... there is nothing there that says it is only for special editions... just that that the title on a dvd release is different then on the original theatrical title.

I personally always prefer the possessive to be in the title.

Since this is about DVD's, how many DVD online sellers actually sell 'Alfred Hitchcock's The Birds'?

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Rick:

I exoect nothing from someone with the intelligence level of a gnat, such as yoursalef.

Classic. Insult someone's intelligence and spell 13% of the words wrong



Personally I like what Dan said those many pages ago. Something about the title being found "in quotes" as in "Bram Stroker's Dracula" Seems easy enough to me.