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$150 million.  They probably figured the market was smaller than they expected at this point.  They could take the money now.  The money is more than enough to cover any additional sales from Blu-ray over the 18 month contract.  Then, after the 18 months of the contract is over they would have a much larger user base to make money from.

You keep throwing out that $150 million number as if it means something.  Not a single credible news agency has confirmed that Paramount/DreamWorks were paid that kind of money.  If you have proof to the contrary, please provide the link. 

Circles.  We are going in circles.  We already established that you don't consider the New York Times (or any source that mentioned money changed hands) a credible source.  Just about all of Hollywood knows it.  We have discussed that Microsoft said they didn't give the money to Paramount, but Toshiba and "others" did.  Let's leave it at that, because I already provided links from several sources in this thread.

Can we move on to something worthwhile, now?

Why should your post be the "final" word on the topic???  I find that you often try to push past arguments in an attempt to get the proverbial last word, often you say things like, "I already addressed this so it isn't relevant"... or "this is not important to me so it has no merit"... as if you believe everyone here is just going to say, Oh, A_S already covered this, he must be right then!!! 

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$150 million.  They probably figured the market was smaller than they expected at this point.  They could take the money now.  The money is more than enough to cover any additional sales from Blu-ray over the 18 month contract.  Then, after the 18 months of the contract is over they would have a much larger user base to make money from.

You keep throwing out that $150 million number as if it means something.  Not a single credible news agency has confirmed that Paramount/DreamWorks were paid that kind of money.  If you have proof to the contrary, please provide the link. 

Circles.  We are going in circles.  We already established that you don't consider the New York Times (or any source that mentioned money changed hands) a credible source.  Just about all of Hollywood knows it.  We have discussed that Microsoft said they didn't give the money to Paramount, but Toshiba and "others" did.  Let's leave it at that, because I already provided links from several sources in this thread.

Can we move on to something worthwhile, now?

Why should your post be the "final" word on the topic???  I find that you often try to push past arguments in an attempt to get the proverbial last word, often you say things like, "I already addressed this so it isn't relevant"... or "this is not important to me so it has no merit"... as if you believe everyone here is just going to say, Oh, A_S already covered this, he must be right then!!! 

don't you know?  The GREAT and MIGHTY A_S has SPOKEN!
(pay no attention to the man behind the curtain) 

Warner Bros. and New Line Cinema Going Blu-ray Exclusive Tomorrow?

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I'm happy to announce that tomorrow 10AM PST Warner will issue a press release announcing they are going Blu-ray exclusive. I know many of you will not believe me and think this is simply a joke (which I dont blame you for) but I ask you one thing :
-Wait till tomorrow and see what happens. If the announcement doesn't come through, you can blame me all you want and ban me from the site.
Again I'm going to expect alot of doubful comments (or maybe some not nice ones ) coming but I'm fine with it. I'm some one you guys already know (and perhaps you have read my posts before ).
As for those folks willing to have a bit more faith in me, let me give you some insights for tomorrow's announcement :

-Tomorrow Warner will announce going Blu-ray exclusive. However they will honor their commitment to HD DVD (unlike Paramount to Blu-ray) and release all the titles that were promised this year. Starting 2008, Warner will release only in Blu-ray Disc format.
-Waner will release all the previously exclusive HD DVD titles on Blu-ray by end of Q2 2008.
-The first Blu-ray live title (including PiP) from warner will release early 2008.
-As for their joint promotion with Toshiba regarding bundling 300 with 3rd generation Blu-ray players, the offer will expire December 2007.
-New Line will also go Blu-ray exclusive starting 2008 (Hairspray hint anyone?)
-One big catalogue title will be released exclusive on Blu-ray by Q2 2008. I believe Peter Jackson has something to do with that title

Tomorrow 10AM Pacific Time. For those of you who will think I'm not telling the truth or being stupid, I respect that opinion. But coming tomorrow when Warner announces exclusivity, all of you have to send me a Blu-ray movie as a bonus .

I'll believe when I see it, but supposedly we won't have long to wait.  If this is true, good game.  If not, it's business as usual.

Come to think about it, no HD DVD titles were announced from New Line Cinema for this year.

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Not true.  Rumor starter banned.  So much for that idea.  Weird that the blu-ray.com folks are crowing that this is some kind of victory for them.

Unbelievable junk. Some people in the Blu-ray (or else) crowd are apparently really desperate to promote any kind of unsupported rumor and/or FUD.

Here's the actual news from Warner as reported by BetaNews on Sept 19:
http://www.betanews.com/article/print/Warner_Bros_Holds_Fast_on_Bluray_HD_DVD_Dual_Commitment/1190236933

Warner Bros. Holds Fast on Blu-ray / HD DVD Dual Commitment
By Tim Conneally, BetaNews

September 19, 2007, 5:22 PM

As polarizing as the high-definition format war continues to be, Warner Home Video remains silently, but firmly, committed to its position of providing its movie titles to users of all formats on the market.

"If the consumer continues to support both formats, the industry will as well," Warner Home Video president Ron Sanders told TWICE magazine in an interview last week from the floor of the CEDIA convention in Denver.

Common sense might dictate that content producers such as Warner are in no position to prescribe
how consumers are to view their movies - that they simply need to make them available for consumption. Sanders says that newly released Blu-Ray titles outsell their HD DVD counterparts by a 2-to-1 margin, but that does not mean the demand for both will not be met.

Rumors have been flying recently that huge sums of money are being offered to studios to "help decide" which format to finally settle upon. If hard cash were all it took for studios to settle this fracas, observers on the outside may not be aware, it would have been settled two years ago. In any event, some sources continue to report that Toshiba made an undisclosed offer to both Warner Bros. and Paramount to move them both to exclusivity, and that Paramount accepted.

There continues to be no hard evidence of this claim, though Sanders declined the opportunity to expressly refute it during his TWICE interview.

At the recent IFA conference in Germany, both Disney and 20th Century-Fox also dodged the question regarding whether they had received cash in exchange for Blu-Ray support. It may seem like an eon ago, but reporters may have forgotten that both these companies had stakes in the technology - in Disney's case, in an interactive technology it offered to both formats, but which was picked up only by Blu-ray.

But those cards have been held by the game's major players for far too long - long enough for observers to have forgotten them, like trying to remember the names of O.J.'s original prosecutors. Given the fact that this format war is, for all intents and purposes, a stalemate, perhaps the studios require new and different motivations to reach a final resolution - even if it means forgetting whatever side they thought they were on and doing something else instead.

Senior Analyst Chris Crotty of iSuppli poses this theory: "Perhaps they foresee a future in which neither format prevails, e.g., consumers have dual format devices and/or one of each format player. If that is the case, why not take the payment and get something out of the battle?"

Warner Bros. is the last of the major studios to back both formats. WHV chief Ron Sanders claims the reason is to give all customers what they need. Perhaps the public needs a 12-disc limited edition Harry Potter boxed set for the holiday season - which, by the way, the company did announce today for both formats, to be released December 11.

Let's face it, Warner Home Video is sitting on a gold mine with this one. The five Harry Potter films are among the top 50 highest grossing American films of all time, with total worldwide box office receipts of $1.408 billion. For WHV to want to offer anything but every possible format would be illy.

I'm surprised they're not pulling out all the stops and releasing them on Laser Disc and RCA SelectaVision as well.

No matter how this turns out - if this turns out at all - history will record Warner Bros. as the last agnostic.

Didn't post it because I knew it was B.S.

Warner had already stated that they would be looking at the Holiday sales numbers very closely.

New Line has announced titles for HD DVD, but they won't be day and date, they'll be delayed for several months (early '08) due to lack of region coding.

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There is no region coding in any HD DVD release to date... New Line is the only HD DVD releasing studio that sems to give a crap about the lack so far.

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Not true.  Rumor starter banned.  So much for that idea.  Weird that the blu-ray.com folks are crowing that this is some kind of victory for them.

I agree. ISo an diot spammer troll posts completely false garbage on blu-ray.com, the spammer is subsequently banned from the site for posting false info, but not before the garbage he/she posted gets repeated here .... and they call this a victory??         

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The top 10 posters in this thread...

Ascended_Saiyan 568 29%
Unicus69 176 9%
bob9000 121 6%
Battling Butler 104 5%
8ballMax 87 4%
pplchamp 87 4%
Erik 86 4%
Dr. Killpatient 71 4%
VibroCount 70 4%
stefc 64 3%

Does 8ballMax' posts actually count since they only contain `blah blah blah`