Skip, you say that a group of people have an agenda and vendetta against you.  If true, why do you think that is?  Why would they gravitate to concentrating on you?

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Oh you are quite right in assuming that the newbie bashing is pretty much confined to one member.... but whether it's one member or 10 members that are giving a new user a hard time it makes no difference, particularly to the new user! The negative impact is the same to both the new user and the reputation of Invelos. It'd be like allowing Howard Stern to man the phones for the Kids Help Line.    It's completely irresponsible to allow that to happen unchecked.

I never thought I would say this, but I miss the days when all people on here only whined and complained about when the new IPhone app would be ready...   

KC

Well, it does make a difference when you're saying the forums should be shut as opposed to cleaned up. It strikes me that clean-up is easy and would be good for the bottom line as Invelos won't be losing potentially dozens of paid users each year who get chased away from the program.

Agreed. I just feel that if Ken doesn't have the time or interest in dealing with this quickly then pulling the plug on the forums would be the best solution, even if it were only on a temporary basis. Left to continue, this will continue to spread as fast as the oil spill down in the Gulf and will be just as difficult to clean up.

Skip, I believe Kinky C. has made a point worth discussing. You have chuckled over your treatment of newbies, often declaring them to be newbie-snacks for your pleasure. I think it is worth discussing if this, indeed, is appropriate behavior by anyone here, even as few times as once. While your constant presence here may give you lots of run-ins with the same question from hundreds of newcomers, does the latest one deserve a more rude answer than the first? And why exactly would any of them, first, tenth, hundredth, thousandth, deserve any rudeness at all? Why should your (or anyone else's for that matter) newbie-snacking be valuable to Ken's marketing scheme?

Can I hope that if the conspiracy against you is quelled, that you will self-moderate your defensive attacks?

Can I further hope that you will stop your pre-emptive attacks on newcomers who would not repeatedly ask the same questions if these questions were clearly answered in very easy to find instructions?

You are faced with introspection and evaluation of your behavior for years against the statements you've made in the past few days. Please don't let your friends down by ever chewing on another newbie-snack again.

Kinky is rehashing his hatred over old news, Clifr. I don't believe I have done much more than perhaps even chuckle at the ever present repetitive threads in a very long time. So as gar as i can tell this is now a non-issue, except for users such as Kinky C, who are consumed by hatred and that is all too obvious. I f Kinky C were paying attentiion he would KNOW that I have not teased a newbie in a very long time.

You avoided my question... evaded answering it completely.

I do not care whether you've been nice to newcomers for an unspecified time recently.

You publically boasted about how much fun you have munching on newbie-snacks. Many times.

Will you, from now on, stop treating newcomers as food?

Simple question. Please do not dodge it, a friend awaits an important answer.

In some cases, it's necessary. For instance, if someone won't admit they've done anything wrong in the past, there's no reason to think they'll behave differently in the future. If users who have caused trouble in the past can own up to it and say they'll try to do better, I have no problem keeping them around.

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KinktC:

With all due respect you are exceedingly negative and are not providing any sort of an attempt at resolution, you are simply spewing venom and hatred. Which is totally non-productive and beginning to get on my nerves. No I will ask you politely to bugger off. If you persist, please keep in mind that it was you who fired first, bit I am close to firing back.

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I did provide a solution but it involves your active participation to work, that first step being owning up to the fact that you are a part of the problem. I readily concede that I am now too part of the problem (and duly apologize to any who's had their sensibilities offended, you too Skip) along with any other user who has thrown gas on the fire here but, as I stated before, everything has a starting point and all roads seem to be leading to you.

Yeah, I fired the first salvo in your direction... in defense of a new user. No regrets, will do it again the next time it happens. As for my negativity, well sorry, I just don't see any positives in the mistreatment of fellow users, especially from repeat offenders. When you show a willingness to work together to right this wrong then the civility will return to our posts and likely not before.

Lastly, as far as your threat of retaliation goes... fire at will!

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Kathy... it's unfortunate that I keep bringing up the past but it is the root cause of this problem. I am 100% for wiping the slate clean and making an attempt to leave all this behind. I think however that there are just too many strong personalities in here to ever let that happen.   

KC

Moderators please remove all posts made by both Ace and Kinky Cyborg, they are unwarranted, unprovolked, insul;ting and highly argumentative and combative.