I think I finally see what's been going on here.

Because Skip agreed with me you are taking the opposite opinion. I have seen this behavior in some of the threads he has posted in but until now I haven't noticed it being used against other users he agrees with.


It's good to know this is about your ego rather than the data base.

I'm just waiting for someone to add 1974 and 2005 somewhere in the edition field for the two "The Longest Yard" movies.

Yes, I'm waiting to see the can of worms pop open to never be closed again


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Or the 2 "The Chase" movies or the 2 "Fever Pitch" movies.

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I think I finally see what's been going on here.

Because Skip agreed with me you are taking the opposite opinion. I have seen this behavior in some of the threads he has posted in but until now I haven't noticed it being used against other users he agrees with.


It's good to know this is about your ego rather than the data base.

Update: I have voted yes to your contribution to change the Title to the "The Christ" but I have added a comment that I don't support 1925 Version being in the Edition Field. I can't be fairer than that and I can't vote against "The Christ" amendment. I would encourage others to do the same. I am confident that Ken and Gerri can sort out what to do based on the comments and votes.

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One profile capitalizes the 'T' of The Christ, and leaves everything else alone.

If Telecine's contribution is approved, Dan's contribution will then change 2 things instead of 1 because if it is also approved, it will not only capitalize the T but also re-add "1925 Version" to the edition.

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One profile capitalizes the 'T' of The Christ, and leaves everything else alone.

If Telecine's contribution is approved, Dan's contribution will then change 2 things instead of 1 because if it is also approved, it will not only capitalize the T but also re-add "1925 Version" to the edition.

Just vote yes if you agree with the capitalisation change but do as I did and say that you don't support 1925 Version in the Edition field. As I have already said, I am confident that Ken and Gerri can sort it out.

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OK, the both a yous...

I wasn't going to vote, but I decided that the issues here aren't about one movie as much as they are about how to do ANY movie in similar circumstances.

There are two issues far as I can tell.  One profile capitalizes the 'T' of The Christ, and leaves everything else alone.  That is a correct change, even under Profiler rules because 'The Christ' is treated as a proper name.  Therefore, that update gets a YES vote.

The other profile removes '1925 silent version' from the Edition field.  There is no need to enter that there since the Production Year field gives you the 1925 date; but more importantly, as far as I have been able to determine there is no other legitimate version of the 1925 film on a DVD that is available to the public anywhere in the world that would require differentiating the two in that way.  Therefore, the change gets a YES vote.

Both updates are correct, and I don't understand what the fighting is over based on just the facts.  But, as I said, my votes are based not on this particular movie, but the overall changes themselves.

Well said and I agree.

OK, I spoke too soon.  Dan's update of the "T" is correct, and should be approved first.  Yours is correct as far as the Edition stuff goes, but it would also change the T back to a t if applied second.  What you should do is withdraw your current update and resubmit with JUST the Edition change, and leave the title part alone (or also make the t a T).  That would then make it correct on both counts.  (Thanks, James, for bringing that to my attention.)

My current submission does not seek to change the title. The title is what is currently in the DB. So in essence, my contribution does seek to change only the edition field. Ken has suggested that he will not entertain any more submissions relating to this title so I think that the prudent course of action is to leave it as is but make appropriate comments to accompany your vote. Ken and Gerri will sort it out.

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OK, the both a yous...

I wasn't going to vote, but I decided that the issues here aren't about one movie as much as they are about how to do ANY movie in similar circumstances.

There are two issues far as I can tell.  One profile capitalizes the 'T' of The Christ, and leaves everything else alone.  That is a correct change, even under Profiler rules because 'The Christ' is treated as a proper name.  Therefore, that update gets a YES vote.

The other profile removes '1925 silent version' from the Edition field.  There is no need to enter that there since the Production Year field gives you the 1925 date; but more importantly, as far as I have been able to determine there is no other legitimate version of the 1925 film on a DVD that is available to the public anywhere in the world that would require differentiating the two in that way.  Therefore, the change gets a YES vote.

Both updates are correct, and I don't understand what the fighting is over based on just the facts.  But, as I said, my votes are based not on this particular movie, but the overall changes themselves.

Well said and I agree.

OK, I spoke too soon.  Dan's update of the "T" is correct, and should be approved first.  Yours is correct as far as the Edition stuff goes, but it would also change the T back to a t if applied second.  What you should do is withdraw your current update and resubmit with JUST the Edition change, and leave the title part alone (or also make the t a T).  That would then make it correct on both counts.  (Thanks, James, for bringing that to my attention.)

My current submission does not seek to change the title. The title is what is currently in the DB. So in essence, my contribution does seek to change only the edition field. Ken has suggested that he will not entertain any more submissions relating to this title so I think that the prudent course of action is to leave it as is but make appropriate comments to accompany your vote. Ken and Gerri will sort it out.

I know that you aren't changing the title.  But, you each are changing a different thing, so one has to be processed first, one second.  If you update the T first, then apply your update to fix the Edition, it changes the T back to t.  Conversely, if yours is first, it fixes the Edition, but then Dan's wipes out your fix while correcting the T.  See the problem?  Somebody has to back down, OR Ken has to manually make both changes himself to make sure they're not conflicting with each other.

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OK, the both a yous...

I wasn't going to vote, but I decided that the issues here aren't about one movie as much as they are about how to do ANY movie in similar circumstances.

There are two issues far as I can tell.  One profile capitalizes the 'T' of The Christ, and leaves everything else alone.  That is a correct change, even under Profiler rules because 'The Christ' is treated as a proper name.  Therefore, that update gets a YES vote.

The other profile removes '1925 silent version' from the Edition field.  There is no need to enter that there since the Production Year field gives you the 1925 date; but more importantly, as far as I have been able to determine there is no other legitimate version of the 1925 film on a DVD that is available to the public anywhere in the world that would require differentiating the two in that way.  Therefore, the change gets a YES vote.

Both updates are correct, and I don't understand what the fighting is over based on just the facts.  But, as I said, my votes are based not on this particular movie, but the overall changes themselves.

Well said and I agree.

OK, I spoke too soon.  Dan's update of the "T" is correct, and should be approved first.  Yours is correct as far as the Edition stuff goes, but it would also change the T back to a t if applied second.  What you should do is withdraw your current update and resubmit with JUST the Edition change, and leave the title part alone (or also make the t a T).  That would then make it correct on both counts.  (Thanks, James, for bringing that to my attention.)

My current submission does not seek to change the title. The title is what is currently in the DB. So in essence, my contribution does seek to change only the edition field. Ken has suggested that he will not entertain any more submissions relating to this title so I think that the prudent course of action is to leave it as is but make appropriate comments to accompany your vote. Ken and Gerri will sort it out.

I know that you aren't changing the title.  But, you each are changing a different thing, so one has to be processed first, one second.  If you update the T first, then apply your update to fix the Edition, it changes the T back to t.  Conversely, if yours is first, it fixes the Edition, but then Dan's wipes out your fix while correcting the T.  See the problem?  Somebody has to back down, OR Ken has to manually make both changes himself to make sure they're not conflicting with each other.

I am well aware of the issues. I think that Dan has been rather mischievous by changing the comment in his no vote on my submission to raise the fact that it doesn't contain the "The" amendment. In consequence, there are now two no voters who are voting that way because they agree with Dan's amendment of the title, not because they disagree with removing the 1925 Version from the Edition field.

Just to make it clear to everyone voting, my contribution is to remove 1925 Version from the Edition field and no more. I have not sought to change the title from what was already in the database.

Dan's submission is to change the Title to Ben-Hur: A Tale of The Christ and to maintain the 1925 Version in the Edition field.

I propose that people vote on mine on the basis of whether or not people want 1925 Version in the Edition field and that people should vote on Dan's on one of three basis:

1. Vote yes with no comment if you want Title changed to Ben-Hur: A Tale of The Christ and to maintain the 1925 Version in the Edition field; and

2. Vote yes with if you want if you want Title changed to Ben-Hur: A Tale of The Christ but add a comment that to remove 1925 Version from the Edition field if that is what you want; or

3. Vote no with no comment if you don't want the Title changed and don't want 1925 Version in the Edition field.