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Gold Audited Profiles - Proposal
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DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorKathy
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Since we're in the initial stages of this process, a couple of things that I would like to see addressed/changed:

DISC ID:

- Ideally the computer should be able to read the id. But, many times my computer does not read it. Or what about those who can not contribute Blu-ray disc id.

- This data is like any other and I would like to add it if my computer won't.

CAPITALIZATION:

- Capitalization rules updated to address all lower case data. When something is written all in capitals, we change that data to include upper and lower case letters. Should something that is written in lower case letters follow a similar protocol?

Edit: I thought of another:

STUDIOS/MCs:
- This are should be standarized. For example I often see both MGM Home Entertainment and Metro Goldwyn Meyer Home Entertainment on the back cover. Why is only 20th > Twentieth is the only one clarified?
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DVD Profiler Desktop and Mobile RegistrantStar ContributorTheMadMartian
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Quoting surfeur51:
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... it is hard to mess up 'copy exactly'.
The problem is that we do not "copy" exactly. Just changing capitalization is a source of thousands of non linking name variants.

True enough, I was in a bit of a rush so missed that one, but still, A=a, B=b, C=c, while inflexible, is still pretty hard to mess up.
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Against this power, governments and tyrants and armies cannot stand.
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We will teach it to them again.
Though it take a thousand years, we will be free.
- Citizen G'Kar
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No one has stated that IMDb be cloned but of course any database or program is bound to be thought of in developing or improving Profiler.

Please don't get me wrong, I wasn't implying that IMDb not be discussed.  Like yourself, I like IMDb and use them a lot...it's the main reason I don't care about linking in Profiler as that is what I use IMDb for.  Would I use Profiler for that purpose if the linking were fixed?  Probably not as IMDb opens just does it so much because that is what they are focuse on.

That being said, I think the three main problems that people have with Profiler are:
  • Cast/Crew linking...this can only be solved if Ken goes to some sort of Unique Identifier system.

  • Cast/Crew name conversion rom UPPER CASE to Mixed Case...this can be solved with a simple rule change.

  • Crew entries...this, in my opinion, can be solved by Ken keeping the current catagories, but adding the ablility to upload custom roles.


  • Once again, that is what I think the major problems are.  There are other ones...shared cast and crew per film, more studio fields, etc.
    No dictator, no invader can hold an imprisoned population by force of arms forever.
    There is no greater power in the universe than the need for freedom.
    Against this power, governments and tyrants and armies cannot stand.
    The Centauri learned this lesson once.
    We will teach it to them again.
    Though it take a thousand years, we will be free.
    - Citizen G'Kar
    DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorWinston Smith
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    ASSUME NOTHING!!!!!!
    CBE, MBE, MoA and proud of it.
    Outta here

    Billy Video
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    DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorWinston Smith
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    @Kathy
    The de ision was reached on the basis of aesthetics and consistent appearance. So the aNswer is no relative to all lower, mixed or whatever. I recall several Team members thinking Hollywoods penchant for all caps looked tacky in the program.

    @surfeur
    Plesde stop Yves. You had your day. Ken told you no, and even wrote it into the rulrs. I love the way you like to talk about typos and such but alwys neglect to talk about the sometimes misuse of accents with caps. Please drop it. You cried and tried for years, you lose, yet you still cry.t
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    Billy Video
    DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorWinston Smith
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    @ martian
    Yves got the rule change, but not the way he wanted. Ken ruled.so the topic should be closed for Yves. He keeps his data where it belongs locally
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    Billy Video
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    Skip...under no circumstances do I want an IMDB clone. When I suggeated a 'movie'profile I meant for that profile to be based on the credits. ONE master profile which can then be adjusted for each locality's specifics.

    Once again...cast/crew from the credit...with everyone working towards those credits being 100% accurate for spelling, credited as etc.
    DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorSrehtims
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    Once any data in a profile is allowed to be different than what is in/on a dvd or its cover there will always be a bone of contention.
    I'm sorry but that's life right or wrong. After all, this is what the fuss is about.
    We don't need stinkin' IMDB's errors, we make our own.
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    DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorWinston Smith
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    Kathy
    Re studios, they should not be standardized. The name a studio uses is historically important and reveals much info to those who know it. The fox ruling was incorrect because of that. Depending on the time fox has used both twentieth and 20 th in film and on dvd. Ken ruled, o dont agree, as mentioned and I maintain correct studio data locally. Bit since you brought it up, I thought I would explain it. For example Metro Goldwyn Mayer is incorrect between 1968 and about 1982. The company retired leo and became MGM in those years, the first film under that name was 2001.
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    Billy Video
    DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorAddicted2DVD
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    I have to agree on the studios as well. They should be as credited as well. Though I wouldn't mind if there was a linking system added to studios with alternate names or name changes over the years... if it can be figured out and done correctly from the start.
    Pete
    DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorKathy
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    Quoting Addicted2DVD:
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    I have to agree on the studios as well. They should be as credited as well. Though I wouldn't mind if there was a linking system added to studios with alternate names or name changes over the years... if it can be figured out and done correctly from the start.


    I am not disputing any data that is taken from the actual credits. What I am referring to is when they are listed both ways.

    For example, I often see MCs written both ways on the DVD cover. Since we are to take them from the DVD cover, how is one to determine which is correct?
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    Quoting Addicted2DVD:
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    I have to agree on the studios as well. They should be as credited as well. Though I wouldn't mind if there was a linking system added to studios with alternate names or name changes over the years... if it can be figured out and done correctly from the start.



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    DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorNexus the Sixth
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    Quoting Kathy:
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    STUDIOS/MCs:
    - This are should be standarized. For example I often see both MGM Home Entertainment and Metro Goldwyn Meyer Home Entertainment on the back cover. Why is only 20th > Twentieth is the only one clarified?


    I seem to recall that there was a time when the studio field was not long enough to enter the full name so MGM was accepted to be the inofficial "standard". But if both names are used, I would prefer the unabbreviated version, which has some support by the rules after all. We also have the rule about taking similar names from the logo. What is it there, is it MGM or Metro?

    And the reason for the 20th -> Twentieth filter was probabaly that in 99.9% of all profiles it was wrong as they are almost always credited as Twentieth but apparently users were too lazy to type it (or it was also too long to fit).
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    DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorKinematics
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    20th -> Twentieth ... (or it was also too long to fit)


    Definitely too long.  A lot of the original text fields were always way too short.  Similar with things like "Pioneer" instead of "Pioneer Entertainment" or "Pioneer Entertainment (USA)".  Was also why "Vol.1" or "#1" was used instead of "Volume 1" in titles in a lot of cases.
    DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorWinston Smith
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    Kino
    Its been a long time, but I believe twentieth was indeed too long once upon a time.

    Kathy
    Sadly you remarks confirm some conclusions I have come. You can block me as wish, your opinion fazes me not in the least. However, if you say something that requires an explanation or perhaps a correction from me, I will respond to your postings, as i always have. Judge not llest ye be judged. And that is my attitude towards blocking. And that is the nice way.
    ASSUME NOTHING!!!!!!
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    Billy Video
    DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorWinston Smith
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    Btw Kathy let me say that I said nothing to you that warranted a verbal attack . I expect much more grown up behavior from someone with 4 stars. You force me to give you a red.
    ASSUME NOTHING!!!!!!
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    Outta here

    Billy Video
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