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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation:  |  Posts: 3,480 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Unicus69: Quote:
I see where you are coming from, I just saw it from a different perspective. I can agree to leave it at that then. With one more comment...  Quoting Unicus69: Quote:
That perspective being, there is no way this type of resource thread can work as there is no way to check every copy of every disc. From that point of view, this smacked of a PR attempt. I will admit that I could be misreading the intent, but that is how I read it...and , if we are being honest here, T!M had a hand in causing this thread to take a sharp left turn.  Had there been a list that showed, for example, different credits for Con-Air, I would have found that valuable. Such a list would never be complete, but what info it contained would have been valuable to me anyway. | | | ...James
"People fake a lot of human interactions, but I feel like I fake them all, and I fake them very well. That’s my burden, I guess." ~ Dexter Morgan |
| | Registered: March 14, 2007 | Reputation:  |  Posts: 1,029 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting m.cellophane: Quote:
This endless smearing of T!M by those who disagree with his methods and who disagree with Ken's ruling on the subject -- well, it's just really in poor taste and ill-mannered and disrespectful. You may not agree with what he's doing, but on at least 22,748 occasions he has successfully contributed to the database in such a manner that Invelos has accepted his work.
He may not "show his work" or document to your satisfaction, but he does so to Invelos' satisfaction quite successfully. Acknowledge that and move on. And if you don't like his attitude, check your own first. And move on.
I've tried doing what he does. It's a heck of a lot of work. Not only that, but one subjects oneself to this barrage of insults by those discontent with Ken's ruling. I have a lot of respect for him that he's willing to endure it all for our benefit and to improve the Credit Lookup Tool.
And yes, I say for our benefit in spite of the fear-mongering that he might actually *gasp* make an error. I would venture to say that if one were to compare a selection of profiles which he has updated with a selection of non-updated profiles that the accuracy factor would be in his favor. If you feel otherwise, prove it instead of derailing this thread (which would have been a benefit to us all had it been allowed to function as intended).
If we had a resource thread like this, it would have been a valuable addition to the forum. Instead it became an opportunity for some to bash and malign and misconstrue and fear-monger and re-argue what Ken has previously settled. And to what end? Nothing good IMO.
I am deeply disappointed too. Thanks for your thoughtful (as usual) post. I only peeked in this thread every once in a while, because I found it to be very discomforting reading material - to say the least. Thus your counter point is greatly appreciated. | | | | Matthias |
| | Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 2,372 |
| | Posted: | | | | Gotta agree with Matthias.  |
| | Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation:  | | Posts: 13,202 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting m.cellophane: Quote:
Had there been a list that showed, for example, different credits for Con-Air, I would have found that valuable. Such a list would never be complete, but what info it contained would have been valuable to me anyway. My view may have been a little grander, skewing towards the complete, so I will concede that there may have been potential I didn't see.  | | | No dictator, no invader can hold an imprisoned population by force of arms forever.
There is no greater power in the universe than the need for freedom.
Against this power, governments and tyrants and armies cannot stand.
The Centauri learned this lesson once.
We will teach it to them again.
Though it take a thousand years, we will be free.
- Citizen G'Kar |
| | Registered: March 19, 2007 | | Reputation: |  Posts: 6,018 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Jubal: Quote:
Now if he were to ask how i would handle it. We have to remember that Vote Notes NEVER are part ofthe record. But IF I were to begin doing this again, which I will not, I would (1)ask for users to assist by checking my data against their ACTUAL credits, then (2) if somebody left me a note that said they checked it and it was OK, I would copy that note from that user and edit into my notes. That way we would have a documented permanent record that a user had in fact crioss-checked the data and pronounced it OK.
Skip To me, this seems perfect. Earlier on, I forgot to mention the "copy user note to contribution notes" bit, but that would indeed create a permanent record and thus help improve the database. Thank you, Skip! |
| | Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation:  | | Posts: 767 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quote:
This endless smearing of T!M by those who disagree with his methods and who disagree with Ken's ruling on the subject --
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I am deeply disappointed too. James, Fantastic post. If I could give 5 positive votes on this, I would. All the best, Marcel |
| | Registered: May 8, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 1,945 |
| | Posted: | | | | I do not want to judge who is right or wrong here, but what bugs me is the personal attacking.
EVERYTHING can be said in a respectful way and I expect this from a grown up, to be respectful to others.
Great post, James, you got a green arrow from me too for it.
And again, I am NOT judging which side is correct here, I am only judging the tone of some of the posts.
cheers
Donnie | | | | www.tvmaze.com | | | | Last edited: by DarklyNoon |
| | Registered: March 19, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 6,018 |
| | Posted: | | | | Hear hear. Now that's deserving a green as well!  | | | | Last edited: by dee1959jay |
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