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DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorCharlieM
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Is this the one (UPC 032429251954)?

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The rules say:
Use the title from the front cover.
Here the cases containing the disc(s) and their respective covers (with the title on the front) are packaged in a lunchbox partially covered with a J shaped piece of cardboard.

Obeying blindly to the letter of the rules would force to use some text from the J piece of cardboard as the title of this box set.

Locally, I would follow the spirit of the rules using:

Title: Teenage Mutant Ninja Turles / Teenage Mutant Ninja Turles: Out of the Shadows
Edition: Collective Turtle Lunch Box Gift Set

Instead of contributiong anything which is likely to be controversial, I would suggest to use this example as the starting point of a discussion in the contribution comittee; the purpose would be to add a paragraph to the Title section of the rules, to guide us in the case of those special editions in boxes with figurines and other collectors items.
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Quoting Wigram:
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The rules say:
Use the title from the front cover.
Here the cases containing the disc(s) and their respective covers (with the title on the front) are packaged in a lunchbox partially covered with a J shaped piece of cardboard.

Obeying blindly to the letter of the rules would force to use some text from the J piece of cardboard as the title of this box set.

There is no front cover here, so there is no way to take the title from the front cover.  The titles are, however, on the top of the 'J shaped piece of cardboard'.  While I won't be using what you suggested in my local, I don't see any other option for the on-line.

I, personally, don't see the need for a change to the rules.
No dictator, no invader can hold an imprisoned population by force of arms forever.
There is no greater power in the universe than the need for freedom.
Against this power, governments and tyrants and armies cannot stand.
The Centauri learned this lesson once.
We will teach it to them again.
Though it take a thousand years, we will be free.
- Citizen G'Kar
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Wouldn't it be more like

Title: Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles
Edition: Collective Turtle Lunch Box Gift Set

Then have
"Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles" and "Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles: Out of the Shadows" as separate entries for box set contents?
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This is what it looks like to me...

Title:  Collectible Turtle Lunchbox Gift Set
Edition:  Limited Edition

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Quoting scotthm:
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This is what it looks like to me...

Title:  Collectible Turtle Lunchbox Gift Set
Edition:  Limited Edition

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I could agree with that with that, or even something like,

Title:  Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles: Collectible Turtle Lunchbox Gift Set
Edition:  Limited Edition
DVD Profiler Desktop and Mobile RegistrantStar ContributorTheMadMartian
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This is what it looks like to me...

Title:  Collectible Turtle Lunchbox Gift Set
Edition:  Limited Edition

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Please tell me you are kidding.  If not, then I change my original thought and maybe there is a need for a rule change.
No dictator, no invader can hold an imprisoned population by force of arms forever.
There is no greater power in the universe than the need for freedom.
Against this power, governments and tyrants and armies cannot stand.
The Centauri learned this lesson once.
We will teach it to them again.
Though it take a thousand years, we will be free.
- Citizen G'Kar
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Quoting 69samael69:
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Wouldn't it be more like

Title: Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles
Edition: Collective Turtle Lunch Box Gift Set

Then have
"Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles" and "Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles: Out of the Shadows" as separate entries for box set contents?


This was my thought, but...
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Quoting TheMadMartian:
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Please tell me you are kidding.

Why would I kid?  The OP sounded serious to me.

I don't understand the reluctance to accept what seems plainly evident.

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Quoting TheMadMartian:
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Quoting scotthm:
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This is what it looks like to me...

Title:  Collectible Turtle Lunchbox Gift Set
Edition:  Limited Edition

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Please tell me you are kidding.  If not, then I change my original thought and maybe there is a need for a rule change.


Why though? Technically, that's what it is. It's no different than, say, the Midnight Horror Collections, some which have 10 or 12 movies in them. It's not feasible to have every movie in the title, so we end up with something like "Midnight Horror Collection: Blood Predators", then all the movies in the box set contents. It's also not described as a "double feature", say like this one (What's The Matter With Helen? / Whoever Slew Auntie Roo?: Midnite Movies Double Feature)

Personally, after reflecting on it a bit, I would use the title "Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles: Collectible Turtle Lunchbox Gift Set", then set the edition to Limited Edition, but I'm fairly particular about sorting.
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Quoting scotthm:
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Quoting TheMadMartian:
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Please tell me you are kidding.

Why would I kid?  The OP sounded serious to me.

I don't understand the reluctance to accept what seems plainly evident.

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There is no reluctance, we just have two different ideas as to what seems plainly evident.
No dictator, no invader can hold an imprisoned population by force of arms forever.
There is no greater power in the universe than the need for freedom.
Against this power, governments and tyrants and armies cannot stand.
The Centauri learned this lesson once.
We will teach it to them again.
Though it take a thousand years, we will be free.
- Citizen G'Kar
DVD Profiler Desktop and Mobile RegistrantStar ContributorTheMadMartian
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Quoting 69samael69:
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Wouldn't it be more like

Title: Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles
Edition: Collective Turtle Lunch Box Gift Set

Then have
"Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles" and "Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles: Out of the Shadows" as separate entries for box set contents?

This is how I will do it locally, as it makes the most sense to me.
No dictator, no invader can hold an imprisoned population by force of arms forever.
There is no greater power in the universe than the need for freedom.
Against this power, governments and tyrants and armies cannot stand.
The Centauri learned this lesson once.
We will teach it to them again.
Though it take a thousand years, we will be free.
- Citizen G'Kar
DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar Contributorscotthm
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Quoting TheMadMartian:
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There is no reluctance, we just have two different ideas as to what seems plainly evident.

If it seems evident to you that the top of the box is the front of the box then yes, we do have different ideas.

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DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorCharlieM
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Quoting Wigram:
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Is this the one (UPC 032429251954)?

(larger image)

The rules say:
Use the title from the front cover.
Here the cases containing the disc(s) and their respective covers (with the title on the front) are packaged in a lunchbox partially covered with a J shaped piece of cardboard.

Obeying blindly to the letter of the rules would force to use some text from the J piece of cardboard as the title of this box set.

Locally, I would follow the spirit of the rules using:

Title: Teenage Mutant Ninja Turles / Teenage Mutant Ninja Turles: Out of the Shadows
Edition: Collective Turtle Lunch Box Gift Set

Instead of contributiong anything which is likely to be controversial, I would suggest to use this example as the starting point of a discussion in the contribution comittee; the purpose would be to add a paragraph to the Title section of the rules, to guide us in the case of those special editions in boxes with figurines and other collectors items.



The bolded would be backward.  The top, the bottom, and the back all list  "Teenage Mutant Turtles: Out of the shadows first.

So should the online be

Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles: Out of the Shadows / Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles
Edition: Collective Turtle Lunch Box Gift Set
DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorCharlieM
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Quoting TheMadMartian:
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Quoting 69samael69:
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Wouldn't it be more like

Title: Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles
Edition: Collective Turtle Lunch Box Gift Set

Then have
"Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles" and "Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles: Out of the Shadows" as separate entries for box set contents?

This is how I will do it locally, as it makes the most sense to me.


This way for me also.
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Quoting CharlieM:
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The top, the bottom, and the back all list  "Teenage Mutant Turtles: Out of the shadows first.

So should the online be

Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles: Out of the Shadows / Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles
Edition: Collective Turtle Lunch Box Gift Set

I notice you didn't mention what was on the front of the box, which is where the title is supposed to come from.

What's the point of asking what the correct title is when you're just going to do whatever you want regardless of The Rules?


Quoting TheMadMartian:
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There is no front cover here, so there is no way to take the title from the front cover.

The box has six sides -- front, back, top, bottom, left and right, so there is a "front" and it has a "title" on it, though it appears to be to no one's liking.

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