Just curious on everyone's thoughts? when do you call a TV Show or a Film a classic? 

I imagine this is about the no vote I cast where you were trying to remove Classic and replace it with Family on the TV Series Happy Days.

My no  vote was for 2 reasons.

1. This was the only change you were making to the profile. And since the Rules say....

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Do not make contributions that only change or re-order Genres, unless the existing Genre list is blatantly incorrect.

While I may not completely agree with Classic I wouldn't go as far as saying it is "blatantly incorrect" as I can see how many people consider Happy Days as a classic when it comes to sitcoms.... or TV Shows in general for that matter.

2. I disagree with the addition of Family. Something like Happy Days is not what I personally think of when I think of the genre Family. And everyone has just as much right to vote no to a genre that we disagree with as the contributor has to contribute it.

My suggestion... do what most of us do when it comes to genres.... change it to what you prefer locally and lock it down. Not attempt to change what is already in the online.

Ken Cole on Genre changes...

Quoting Ken Cole:

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The rule is to prevent ping-ponging of genre order. If there's a valid contribution being made with other changes, there's nothing in the rules to prevent reordering/changing the genres. 

However, two points:

- There should be a specific reasoning listed for the reorder, listed in the contribution notes
- Even with a reason, you should expect a larger chance to draw No votes from users who disagree with the reorder.

It is likely the contribution will be declined if there is a significant resistance to the genre changes, so all things being equal it is advisable to leave the genre changes local unless you have a good reason to change them and expect consensus.

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Quoting Ken Cole:

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Ace is absolutely correct - changing genres is not against the rules, as long as either a) there are other changes required and included -OR- b) the genres are blatantly incorrect.

The caveats I listed above apply to the wisdom of making the contribution, but there is nothing rule-violating about a contribution that meets one or both of the above requirements.

I'll trust this ends the discussion of whether these are against the rules.

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Quoting Ken Cole:

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You are certainly welcome to disagree with a particular change in genres - the best avenue for that is a No vote with a brief polite note. 

I'm just answering the op's question, which is whether these contributions are ok by the rules, and they are.

Notice especially the points I put in bold.

Quoting tweeter:

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Never in public.  It's a silly and subjective genre I would never try and impose on anyone else through a profile contribution.

Classic Post!!! 

Some people think classic is equal to old, problem with that is old is very subjective. If you're very young you may think that if it's older than you it's classic. But if you're older, a 30 year old film wouldn't be a classic.

Even the "It's stood the test of time" method is subjective. Just because a film or tv show is played often or remembered fondly doesn't mean it's an automatic classic.

Perhaps, the best non-subjective method is to use the Classic genre if it's in the overview on the case. And then only if it's used as an adjective of the movie or tv series.

That way it's the studio saying that it's a classic and not us.

Just doing a filter search, these would be what is Classic when in the Overview.
Alice in Wonderland
American Graffiti
Apocalypse Now
The Aristocats
Assault on Precinct 13
Bambi
Beauty and the Beast
Bedknobs and Broomsticks

Quoting tweeter:

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Never in public.  It's a silly and subjective genre I would never try and impose on anyone else through a profile contribution.

As for the topic of classics... seldomly if ever use it myself.

That just don't change the fact that the contribution you made should be voted no to... with the rules as written. As well as the fact that I disagree with the replacement genre.

Quoting dee1959jay:

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Agreed. "Classic" is not a genre in the first place.

Neither is "Television".  Let's do away with both of them.

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