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| Registered: March 14, 2007 |  Posts: 2,337 |
| | Posted: | | | | There are some pending contributions to certain short films collections which add "DVD Host" as a Cast member. Actually this host isn't credited anywhere, he wasn't even born when these films were made. He has nothing to do with the actual films on those DVDs. Each DVD has a few minutes long "Introduction by xxxx" featurette (separately selectable from menus), but I still cannot understand how rules support adding him to Cast? The problem is that everybody except me is voting yes, and I'm quite afraid that these contributions will be accepted just because the amount of yes voters. I understand why Alfred Hitchcock is added as a host on Alfred Hitchcock Presents series, since his introduction is a part of each episode, but in these cases it isn't so. I would much rather see his introduction added to Other Features. Any thoughts? |
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| Registered: March 20, 2007 | Reputation:  |  Posts: 2,851 |
| | Posted: | | | | If they're not in the main feature(s), don't include them.
The Rules: "Do not list actors and crew who appear only in special features"
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| Registered: March 14, 2007 | | Posts: 2,337 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting scotthm: Quote:
If they're not in the main feature(s), don't include them.
The Rules: "Do not list actors and crew who appear only in special features"
--------------- I completely agree. For me this rule is as clear as it can be. I checked that I have in my collection almost 50 releases which includes a director's (usually) introduction. I still wouldn't try to add for example Ridley Scott to Kingdom of Heaven Cast as a "DVD host"   | | | | Last edited: by Kulju |
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| Registered: May 19, 2007 | Reputation:  |  Posts: 6,730 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting scotthm: Quote:
If they're not in the main feature(s), don't include them.
The Rules: "Do not list actors and crew who appear only in special features"
--------------- ^^ This ^^ Introduction by whomever is a Special Feature and could at most be entered in the "Other Features"-section (e.g. as "Feature introduction(s) by XYZ") | | | It all seems so stupid, it makes me want to give up!
But why should I give up, when it all seems so stupid?
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| Registered: March 19, 2007 | Reputation:  |  Posts: 6,018 |
| | Posted: | | | | This does indeed belong in Other Features. |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation:  |  Posts: 3,197 |
| | Posted: | | | | I would only add it if the introduction is part of the main feature. Otherwise it belongs in Other Features. | | | | First registered: February 15, 2002 |
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  | Corne | | Registered: Nov. 1, 2000 |
| Registered: April 5, 2007 | | Posts: 1,059 |
| | Posted: | | | | This: Quoting scotthm: Quote:
If they're not in the main feature(s), don't include them.
The Rules: "Do not list actors and crew who appear only in special features"
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| Registered: March 14, 2007 | | Posts: 2,337 |
| | Posted: | | | | I'm happy to see that there's a consensus here on forums, but unhappy to see that voters have quite the opposite idea what's per rules  |
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| Registered: October 30, 2011 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 1,870 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Kulju: Quote:
I'm happy to see that there's a consensus here on forums, but unhappy to see that voters have quite the opposite idea what's per rules Well hopefully the screeners know the rules as well or someone votes NO pointing to this thread so they see |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 13,202 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Scooter1836: Quote:
Quoting Kulju:
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I'm happy to see that there's a consensus here on forums, but unhappy to see that voters have quite the opposite idea what's per rules
Well hopefully the screeners know the rules as well or someone votes NO pointing to this thread so they see One can hope, but recent experience tells me they don't...even when you quote the rule in your vote comment. | | | No dictator, no invader can hold an imprisoned population by force of arms forever.
There is no greater power in the universe than the need for freedom.
Against this power, governments and tyrants and armies cannot stand.
The Centauri learned this lesson once.
We will teach it to them again.
Though it take a thousand years, we will be free.
- Citizen G'Kar |
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| Registered: May 19, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 6,730 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting TheMadMartian: Quote:
One can hope, but recent experience tells me they don't...even when you quote the rule in your vote comment. Same here, the usual answer you get when asking for a reason is that "The rules are wrong here and/or don't make sense". | | | It all seems so stupid, it makes me want to give up!
But why should I give up, when it all seems so stupid?
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| Registered: March 16, 2007 | | Posts: 278 |
| | Posted: | | | | I believe the title in question here is a collection of short films, and if I'm not mistaken, there IS a feature in the main menu titled "Introduction with {host}" If that is the case, how can we claim he's not credited? |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 13,202 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Leiterfluid: Quote:
I believe the title in question here is a collection of short films, and if I'm not mistaken, there IS a feature in the main menu titled "Introduction with {host}" If that is the case, how can we claim he's not credited? As I understand it, they are saying that the introduction is a special feature, rather than a part of the main feature, which is a collection of shorts. Because of that, he doesn't get credited as part of the cast. | | | No dictator, no invader can hold an imprisoned population by force of arms forever.
There is no greater power in the universe than the need for freedom.
Against this power, governments and tyrants and armies cannot stand.
The Centauri learned this lesson once.
We will teach it to them again.
Though it take a thousand years, we will be free.
- Citizen G'Kar |
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| Registered: March 20, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 2,851 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Leiterfluid: Quote:
I believe the title in question here is a collection of short films, and if I'm not mistaken, there IS a feature in the main menu titled "Introduction with {host}" If that is the case, how can we claim he's not credited? As noted above, this is a "special feature" for which we do not submit cast, and I hope you're not suggesting that one's name in the menu constitutes an onscreen credit. --------------- |
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| Registered: March 16, 2007 | | Posts: 278 |
| | Posted: | | | | Well, I question whether it truly is a "special feature" or if it's a main part of how the anthology was crafted. Again, we're not setting out to profile the individual titles necessarily, but the DVD itself, right?
So is the introduction intended to be isolated. or part of the primary product? |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 3,197 |
| | Posted: | | | | It doesn't matter what you call it. The question is if the introduction was part of the original feature(s). Quote:
Examples of valid Other Features:
Film Introductions (which were not part of the original theatrical release)
Examples of invalid Other Feature entries:
Introductions which were part of the original theatrical release | | | | First registered: February 15, 2002 |
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