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| Registered: March 24, 2012 |  Posts: 42 |
| | Posted: | | | | Many discs comes with trailers as a commercial before you come to the menu. Should we include this in the "Features" section, or should we only select "Bonus Trailers" if it's reachable through the main menu/bonus menu?
To make things more complicated - some discs may display trailers depending on which country/language you choose in the introductory language menu. Let's say if you choose "Swedish" you will get some trailers before the main menu, but if you choose "Norwegian" you will get none. In these cases I normally choose the features according to the country where disc is distributed. |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation:  |  Posts: 17,334 |
| | Posted: | | | | It don't matter where the trailers are on the disc (whether there is a menu option for them or not)... a trailer is a trailer. You would still check the Bonus Trailer box (Feature Trailers is only for the film/show on the disc). | | | | Pete |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 13,202 |
| | Posted: | | | | Pete is correct, a trailer is a trailer. | | | No dictator, no invader can hold an imprisoned population by force of arms forever.
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| Registered: March 24, 2012 | | Posts: 42 |
| | Posted: | | | | Ok, thanks folks! |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation:  |  Posts: 3,197 |
| | Posted: | | | | I would check trailers, but I don't think I would bother to check every locality just to see if it produces different results. | | | | First registered: February 15, 2002 | | | | Last edited: by Nexus the Sixth |
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| Registered: May 2, 2009 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 490 |
| | Posted: | | | | Normally trailers are listed on the cover as special features. However, as said here, there is a difference between Feature Trailers and Bonus Trailers.
What isn't listed as a Bonus Feature, but that you may list as Other Features, is a promo reel. Which is a series of trailers, one after the other, showing before the menu.
Normally, a general trailer, you select to view individually, via a menu. | | | | Last edited: by MikaLove |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 17,334 |
| | Posted: | | | | They would be bonus trailers.... the rules don't say there has to be a menu of any type... or anything about them being listed on the cover. | | | | Pete |
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| Registered: May 2, 2009 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 490 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Addicted2DVD: Quote:
They would be bonus trailers.... the rules don't say there has to be a menu of any type... or anything about them being listed on the cover. No, as much as a trailer is a trailer, a promo reel is a promo reel. Like "From this (distributing) studio as well, comes..." and then random titles. I don't regard that as a bonus trailer (or several)—unless this promo reel is listed on the back cover as "bonus trailers", specifically, which they wouldn't be—because it's just that, a promo reel. I see a bonus trailer as a trailer either before or after a movie. In the golden days of movies, it was always before a VHS title. I didn't say that the rules say that a trailer is only a trailer if it's chosen via a menu, nor that they always are selected from a menu—or mentioned on the back cover, only meant that that is normally the case. Like an indication. |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 17,334 |
| | Posted: | | | | If it is a line of full trailers then the bonus trailers would be checked if there is a menu or on the cover or before the menu comes up. And the reason I replied to you because you called it a "series of trailers". A series of trailers before the menu would still be considered bonus trailers per rules. What wouldn't be added is the studio montage... where they take bits and pieces of several trailers... and edit them together... then have something like FOX DVD at the end. These studio montages (which is what the Rules calls them) do not get included. Rules Quote: Quote:
Bonus Trailers: Theatrical Trailers or TV spots for the other films/shows. Do not include studio trailer montages. This is a studio montage... so not allowed. But if it is full trailers... or as you said " a series of trailers, one after the other, showing before the menu.".... this is still considered bonus trailers for us. | | | | Pete |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 13,202 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting MikaLove: Quote:
Quoting Addicted2DVD:
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They would be bonus trailers.... the rules don't say there has to be a menu of any type... or anything about them being listed on the cover.
No, as much as a trailer is a trailer, a promo reel is a promo reel. Like "From this (distributing) studio as well, comes..." and then random titles. I don't regard that as a bonus trailer (or several)—unless this promo reel is listed on the back cover as "bonus trailers", specifically, which they wouldn't be—because it's just that, a promo reel. I see a bonus trailer as a trailer either before or after a movie. In the golden days of movies, it was always before a VHS title. That may be how you see it, but the rules don't make that distinction. Per the rules, Feature Trailers are "Theatrical Trailers or TV spots for the main feature," and Bonus Trailers are "Theatrical Trailers or TV spots for the other films/shows." There is nothing that requires that they be listed on the back of the case. | | | No dictator, no invader can hold an imprisoned population by force of arms forever.
There is no greater power in the universe than the need for freedom.
Against this power, governments and tyrants and armies cannot stand.
The Centauri learned this lesson once.
We will teach it to them again.
Though it take a thousand years, we will be free.
- Citizen G'Kar |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation:  | | Posts: 554 |
| | Posted: | | | | As a trailer nut, I actually went through all of my Blu-rays to confirm whether the feature trailer was indeed included. I was surprised to find that a lot of profiles confuse bonus and feature trailers (as in feature trailers is ticked when only bonus trailers are included). | | | My DVD/Blu-ray Collection
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 3,197 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Rizor: Quote:
As a trailer nut, I actually went through all of my Blu-rays to confirm whether the feature trailer was indeed included. I was surprised to find that a lot of profiles confuse bonus and feature trailers (as in feature trailers is ticked when only bonus trailers are included). I don't think there is much confusion about this. It's just that Bonus Trailers is a more recent addition to the program and many old profiles have never been updated to reflect the change. | | | | First registered: February 15, 2002 |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: |  Posts: 2,293 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Rizor: Quote:
I was surprised to find that a lot of profiles confuse bonus and feature trailers (as in feature trailers is ticked when only bonus trailers are included). KinoNiki is spot on; in previous versions of the program the only tickbox was "Trailers". When the distinction was introduced between Bonus and Theatrical trailers the program migrated the "Trailers" tickbox to the "Theatrical Trailers" tickbox and many profiles have not yet been updated to correct this if the original entry actually meant "Bonus Trailers" | | | | It is dangerous to be right in matters where established men are wrong |
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| Registered: March 23, 2011 | | Posts: 462 |
| | Posted: | | | | Personally I don't see trailers on DVD/Blu-ray's as a bonus (especially those before the movie), so I never tick that box. |
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| Registered: March 24, 2012 | | Posts: 42 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting force: Quote:
Personally I don't see trailers on DVD/Blu-ray's as a bonus (especially those before the movie), so I never tick that box. Exactly, that's why I had this question in the first place; I see them as a bonus if they are accessible through the menu, and as commercials when you have to go through them before you get to the main menu. But of course, they are all commercials when it comes to it - that is why the companies put them there. However I follow the rules, and tick the box as mentioned in the earlier posts here. | | | | Last edited: by superted |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: |  Posts: 1,272 |
| | Posted: | | | | I was confused on this... I thought the 'montage' meant that there was a bunch strung together, but couldn't pick the title individually from the menu.
Just to clarify it for me...
Feature Trailers - A trailer of the film on the disc.
Bonus Trailers - Any additional trailers for other films. Either at the start at the disc, or accessable through the menu? (Regardless of whether they are listed individually or grouped together)
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