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Ghost Rider (Blu-ray) Bonus Materials Disc (DVD)
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DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar Contributorrorymatt
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How many others got this title Ghost Rider: Spirit of Vengeance UPC 043396-399716 with the Bonus Materials Disc it's a DVD not a Blu-ray. I purchased my copy on release day at Walmart. It's not marked as a Walmart Exclusive either. I have this UPC up for voting and have gotten 12 yes and one no. The no voter giving the reason that his did not have the bonus material disc.

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Got mine from Amazon and it only has a single blu-ray inside.  The case says nothing about a bonus DVD.
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I changed my vote for now since I think the extra disc is an exclusive but I can not find anywhere in the rules or the pined thread here that says you can not contribute it as part of the profile if the UPC is shared.
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I don't see where it detracts from your copy with it inclusion. I remember when I got Splice on Blu-ray when it came out it was movie only yet the main profile was for two disc and had the same UPC. Especially when it is an otherwise complete and correct contribution.

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I don't see where it detracts from your copy with it inclusion.

It doesn't detract, but it gives the impression that a bonus disc is included, for all copies, when it really isn't.
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The same can be said for my copy of Splice it's cover says nothing about a second dosc or any extras or digital copy and the online profile does again the same UPC.

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It doesn't detract, but it gives the impression that a bonus disc is included, for all copies, when it really isn't.


Is that a problem? We're fine with giving people the impression digital copies are included when they aren't.
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, I like that one Ace!

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Is that a problem? We're fine with giving people the impression digital copies are included when they aren't.

Are we?  I don't believe I am fine doing that...though it is hard to argue with what is printed on the case.  If the case says 'Digital Copy', then I have to live with someone adding that to a profile.  If there is no mention of it on the case, then I wouldn't add it.
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Are we?  I don't believe I am fine doing that...though it is hard to argue with what is printed on the case.  If the case says 'Digital Copy', then I have to live with someone adding that to a profile.  If there is no mention of it on the case, then I wouldn't add it.


What I meant is there are plenty of releases where some early printings have a digital copy, but it is quickly discontinued. We list the digital copy online even though Joe Enduser will go out and buy the title and find it doesn't have one. This seems like the same thing.
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What I meant is there are plenty of releases where some early printings have a digital copy, but it is quickly discontinued. We list the digital copy online even though Joe Enduser will go out and buy the title and find it doesn't have one. This seems like the same thing.

For me there is a difference between including things, like slips, that are issued with every initial copy, then discontinued, and including things that are only included in some of the initial releases.

When the same UPC is used, I prefer to profile the generic release that is available at all stores, rather than the unadvertised bonus disc.  But it seems that is just me.
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Though it take a thousand years, we will be free.
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From posts on the blu-ray.com forum both Walmart and Best Buy had exclusive bonus discs. I think that the Walmart one came with the 2D edition and the Best Buy one came with the 3D edition.

If the Walmart one came in the same 2D edition that is available everywhere else and shares the same UPC# then what I would do is just add the Walmart Bonus Disc as a standalone profile (which has been done for these exclusive bonus discs before) to the online database. Thus allowing those that own it to download it and add it as a box set content locally.
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The Walmart disc is behind the scenes footage not the Movie on DVD. Hence the label of Bonus Materials.

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And the Best Buy one is also a featurette.
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What I meant is there are plenty of releases where some early printings have a digital copy, but it is quickly discontinued. We list the digital copy online even though Joe Enduser will go out and buy the title and find it doesn't have one. This seems like the same thing.

For me there is a difference between including things, like slips, that are issued with every initial copy, then discontinued, and including things that are only included in some of the initial releases.

When the same UPC is used, I prefer to profile the generic release that is available at all stores, rather than the unadvertised bonus disc.  But it seems that is just me.


Not just you Martian... I see it the same way.
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What I meant is there are plenty of releases where some early printings have a digital copy, but it is quickly discontinued. We list the digital copy online even though Joe Enduser will go out and buy the title and find it doesn't have one. This seems like the same thing.

For me there is a difference between including things, like slips, that are issued with every initial copy, then discontinued, and including things that are only included in some of the initial releases.

When the same UPC is used, I prefer to profile the generic release that is available at all stores, rather than the unadvertised bonus disc.  But it seems that is just me.


Not just you Martian... I see it the same way.



I did this with Suits: Season One that came out in May.  The Target version had an exclusive bonus disc, but the same UPC as the general release. So I added the 3 general release discs with the episodes on them, contributed that, then added the bonus disc and locked the disc info.  Better that than go back and forth with someone saying "their copy doesn't include the bonus disc."
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