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| Registered: March 14, 2007 | Reputation:  |  Posts: 6,744 |
| | Posted: | | | | Hi,
I just defaulted my entire collection to Color, except for the few B/W movies and shows I own (Orion, Seven Samurai, Yojimbo, Rawhide).
To make it easier for all of us, let us list movies that deliberately used mixed colours, regardless of their locality, so that everyone can check if he has one of those.
And as an added bonus, we can argue if the movie does count as mixed.
From the top of my head:
Sin City
Pleasantville
Kill Bill Vol. 1 | | | Karsten
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: |  Posts: 20,111 |
| | Posted: | | | | Europa (Lars von Trier)
JFK | | | | Corey |
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| | Posted: | | | | Wizard of Oz | | | Mika
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| | Posted: | | | | Forrest Gump .. | | | In the 60's, People took Acid to make the world Weird. Now the World is weird and People take Prozac to make it Normal.
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| Registered: March 14, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 6,744 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting widescreenforever: Quote:
Forrest Gump .. Are there any significant B/W scenes in FG except for a few short archive footages where Forrest was inserted? | | | Karsten
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| Registered: March 14, 2007 | | Posts: 2,337 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting DJ Doena: Quote:
Kill Bill Vol. 1 European version contains ~5min B&W out of 106min = color. |
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| Registered: October 30, 2011 | Reputation:  | | Posts: 1,870 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting DJ Doena: Quote:
Quoting widescreenforever:
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Forrest Gump ..
Are there any significant B/W scenes in FG except for a few short archive footages where Forrest was inserted? I dont' recall FG having 10% to make it mixed |
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| Registered: March 14, 2007 | | Posts: 2,337 |
| | Posted: | | | | I believe that this rule needs some fine tuning. Plain 10% rule is just too restrictive. For example movies like Europa and JFK color changes are important for the "tone" of the movie and in my opinion it's plain obvious that these shoud be mixed, but if I would be stupid enough and time the whole material I believe that Europe would be B&W and JFK would be Color.
Somehow we should be able to note the general "tone" of the film and reasoning for color changes on top of the 10% rule. In my opinion Archive material in documentaries shouldn't be counted in as it isn't a director's artistic choise. |
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| Registered: October 30, 2011 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 1,870 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Kulju: Quote:
I believe that this rule needs some fine tuning. Plain 10% rule is just too restrictive. For example movies like Europa and JFK color changes are important for the "tone" of the movie and in my opinion it's plain obvious that these shoud be mixed, but if I would be stupid enough and time the whole material I believe that Europe would be B&W and JFK would be Color.
Somehow we should be able to note the general "tone" of the film and reasoning for color changes on top of the 10% rule. In my opinion Archive material in documentaries shouldn't be counted in as it isn't a director's artistic choise. I would disagree, Some say that the photos in "The Civil War" are archive. And those are in fact the crux of the documentary and absolutely the director's artistic choice. At least for the online database the criteria needs to be as objective as possible | | | | Last edited: by Scooter1836 |
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| Registered: October 30, 2011 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 1,870 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Kulju: Quote:
I believe that this rule needs some fine tuning. Plain 10% rule is just too restrictive. For example movies like Europa and JFK color changes are important for the "tone" of the movie and in my opinion it's plain obvious that these shoud be mixed, but if I would be stupid enough and time the whole material I believe that Europe would be B&W and JFK would be Color.
Somehow we should be able to note the general "tone" of the film and reasoning for color changes on top of the 10% rule. In my opinion Archive material in documentaries shouldn't be counted in as it isn't a director's artistic choise. The rule may need fine tuning, but we need to ensure we follow the process to actually get the rule changed if it needs to be changed. |
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| Registered: June 12, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 2,665 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Kulju: Quote:
In my opinion Archive material in documentaries shouldn't be counted in as it isn't a director's artistic choise. It is what is on the screen that matters, regardless of the source. If enough of a given film/documentary is B&W (or Color) on the screen then that decides it. We don't guess as to the filmmaker's intent, nor do we judge the source of the material. If i'm staring at a B&W documentary for two hours I won't say "well technically it's Color, cause the images are just so old." | | | | Bad movie? You're soaking in it! |
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| Registered: December 10, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 3,004 |
| | Posted: | | | | Some documentaries are nothing but archive footage |
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| Registered: October 30, 2011 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 1,870 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Ace_of_Sevens: Quote:
Some documentaries are nothing but archive footage "For All Mankind" is a good example of one |
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| Registered: March 20, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 2,851 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Kulju: Quote:
Somehow we should be able to note the general "tone" of the film and reasoning for color changes on top of the 10% rule. No, we should use a simple, objective rule (like the 10% rule) for the online and we can change it to our hearts content in our local to fit the "tone" of the film. --------------- |
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| Registered: December 10, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 3,004 |
| | Posted: | | | | A good rule needs to give results that are both consistent and useful. An objective rule doesn't do any good if it leads to things being entered differently than most people think of them. I think any more-than-incidental use of a different scheme should make a movie mixed. Besides, sitting there with a stop watch trying to figure out whether archive footage is more than 10% of a documentary is not a good contribution process. |
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| Registered: October 30, 2011 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 1,870 |
| | Posted: | | | | Well at any rate, better tp be discussed in the "Contribution Rules Committee" forum
The rule needs to be as objective as possible given the circumstances. At least of the online database we have to watch how much "opinion" goes into it, otherwise it will lead to arguments. But how objective vs. opinion is the question |
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