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DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantAntares
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Moderated post = 1st warning = verbal warning and 30 day probationary period
2nd moderated post in probationary period = 24 hour ban and 60 day probationary period
3rd moderated post in probationary period = 72 hour ban and 90 probationary period
4th moderated post in probationary period = 7 day ban and 6 month probationary period
5th moderated post in probationary period = 30 day ban and 1 year probationary period and final warning
6th moderated in probationary period results in permanent ban.

If you have one of your posts moderated because you quoted a post that was moderated, it would not fall under these quidelines.

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Please refer to this post for further clarifications of this proposal.

http://www.invelos.com/Forums.aspx?task=viewtopic&topicID=455600&PageNum=5&messageID=1267973#M1267973
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I absolutely agree with this. However, I would like to see it implemented that the moderated post is not a blanket/vague mod statement so there is no confusion.

Moderator: Post Removed should be elaborated on for that particular post, so people know why it was moderated. Then, if bans/warnings happen, the reasons are clear.
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Quoting Alien Redrum:
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I absolutely agree with this. However, I would like to see it implemented that the moderated post is not a blanket/vague mod statement so there is no confusion.

Moderator: Post Removed should be elaborated on for that particular post, so people know why it was moderated. Then, if bans/warnings happen, the reasons are clear.

I presume this would include Avatars.
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Quoting Prof. Kingsfield:
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Quoting Alien Redrum:
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I absolutely agree with this. However, I would like to see it implemented that the moderated post is not a blanket/vague mod statement so there is no confusion.

Moderator: Post Removed should be elaborated on for that particular post, so people know why it was moderated. Then, if bans/warnings happen, the reasons are clear.

I presume this would include Avatars.


Could you possibly for once in your life, show some restraint.

I have posted a legitimate polling question. There is no need for this crap.
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I voted yes, but I think it would be nice to show leniency towards posts that are moderated for being off-topic, although anyone who does it constantly should be disciplined. Maybe class them as half a post?
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Quoting northbloke:
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I voted yes, but I think it would be nice to show leniency towards posts that are moderated for being off-topic, although anyone who does it constantly should be disciplined. Maybe class them as half a post?


This system would only be used for posts that are either racist, inflammatory, harassing  or down right rude.

If someone goes off topic, then the moderator should instruct them to either keep the discussion on topic or not post at all. If they persist, then that would be treated as harassment.
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Quoting Prof. Kingsfield:
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Quoting Alien Redrum:
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I absolutely agree with this. However, I would like to see it implemented that the moderated post is not a blanket/vague mod statement so there is no confusion.

Moderator: Post Removed should be elaborated on for that particular post, so people know why it was moderated. Then, if bans/warnings happen, the reasons are clear.

I presume this would include Avatars.


Can we infer from this that you go beyond simply representing yourself as an airbrushed Walt Disney, but that any parody of Disney mocks you personally?



Okay. Got it. Maybe I should have a more accurate representation of me as my avatar:

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I voted too sever.  Sorry.  I love the idea, but I hate to see anyone get a permanent ban.  Though I would get great amusement out of seeing someone get repeated 30-day bans for the same behavior.

I also think that SUSPENDED to appear next to the user name.  This will let the users know that action has been taken.  And it will prevent people from piling on someone after they've already received their punishment.  I suspect people have been suspended in the past, but it just appears like real life got in the way or they're off sleeping or whatever.  With a short ban, that leads people to believe that they're just being quiet and Invelos is ignoring the situation.
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Quoting Antares:
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Quoting northbloke:
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I voted yes, but I think it would be nice to show leniency towards posts that are moderated for being off-topic, although anyone who does it constantly should be disciplined. Maybe class them as half a post?


This system would only be used for posts that are either racist, inflammatory, harassing  or down right rude.

If someone goes off topic, then the moderator should instruct them to either keep the discussion on topic or not post at all. If they persist, then that would be treated as harassment.


Thanks for clarifying.
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Quoting Antares:
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If someone goes off topic, then the moderator should instruct them to either keep the discussion on topic or not post at all.


That only works if the moderators are on top of every situation and treating people fairly.  I don't pay attention to the moderators.  But I've heard horror stories of their judgments not always being fair, equal or present at all.
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Quoting Mark Harrison:
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I voted too sever.  Sorry.  I love the idea, but I hate to see anyone get a permanent ban.  Though I would get great amusement out of seeing someone get repeated 30-day bans for the same behavior.


But Mark, you're talking about six warnings. If someone can't control themselves, then they deserve to have metered out the stiffest penalty. If they curtail their anti-social and aggressive behavior, then nothing happens to them.
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Quoting northbloke:
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I think it would be nice to show leniency towards posts that are moderated for being off-topic

How many times have we seen that happen, say, this year? Has there actually been a single post moderated for that reason over the past few months? I know that it has happened once or twice, in the very beginning of the moderation trial, but I don't remember seeing it ever again since.

Quoting Mark Harrison:
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That only works if the moderators are on top of every situation and treating people fairly.

Indeed. As it stands, I don't get that idea at all.
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Quoting Mark Harrison:
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If someone goes off topic, then the moderator should instruct them to either keep the discussion on topic or not post at all.


That only works if the moderators are on top of every situation and treating people fairly.  I don't pay attention to the moderators.  But I've heard horror stories of their judgments not always being fair, equal or present at all.


Then maybe another poll should be started suggesting that moderators be elected by the forum community. I myself, would love to have Kathy or Unicus as a moderator. They have proven to be fair and honest in their assessments and postings.
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Quoting Mark Harrison:
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I voted too sever.  Sorry.  I love the idea, but I hate to see anyone get a permanent ban.  Though I would get great amusement out of seeing someone get repeated 30-day bans for the same behavior..


I disagree.  For a person to be permanently banned would take some effort.  If anyone reached that level then they obviously would have no self control.

I also think getting more moderators would be a good idea, I'm sure a few good solid members could be rounded up to help.  I also don't like them being anonymous, you should no who you are talking to if there is an issue.
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I like the suggestion. The goal however is not to ban but rather to have everyone operate within accepted guidelines. With light punishment or warnings, the lack of consequence doesn't affect behavior. If someone knew that posting an insult would bump them out of the forum for a week, I bet they'd be reluctant to post it.
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Quoting Antares:
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Quoting Prof. Kingsfield:
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Quoting Alien Redrum:
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I absolutely agree with this. However, I would like to see it implemented that the moderated post is not a blanket/vague mod statement so there is no confusion.

Moderator: Post Removed should be elaborated on for that particular post, so people know why it was moderated. Then, if bans/warnings happen, the reasons are clear.

I presume this would include Avatars.


Could you possibly for once in your life, show some restraint.

I have posted a legitimate polling question. There is no need for this crap.

And your poll has credibility why exactly, since you have a very clear personal agenda.
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