I have noticed that the forum moderators are now just deleting posts completely (and not merley editing posts).

The problem with deleting posts is that others have commented (or linked to these posts) and these separate posts (and threads) now make no sense.

I had added this information in the thread which has been butchered in this way and added (what I thought) was useful background information as to how the moderators at the DVD forums deal with posts that need to be edited. They have 50,000 members of their forums and manage an excellent job of moderating (and if neccessary) editing posts - but they rarely (if ever) delete the post completely.

This post of mine has itself been deleted so all the information / links I added have been lost.

If anyone expresses any interest I will re-find the information.

I am a keen supporter of moderation at these forums - but something seems to have gone awry with the current removal of posts (instead of merley editing of posts). And when posts are edited there should be an obvious sign of editing e.g. with "*** EDITED BY MODERATOR ***" etc in the post.

Quoting SpaceFreakMicha:

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I agree, deleting posts instead of a temporary ban for bullies doesn't work. Instead of preventing personal attacks they are now just deleted from the threads, not from the minds of people involved.

Only the fear of temporary bans/restrictions may help to keep some of the well-known fireheads cool.

I agree. Banning a use should really be a last resort, if he/she didn't comply to the rules after multiple warnings ... but simply deleting posts is not a solution. It only makes it seem like bullies are encouraged to act out this way, as they know in advance the evidence will get deleted.

The way I see it, the only posts that should be deleted are spam messages. If a post is inflammatory, the best course of action is to lock the thread and warn or ban the offending user.

Totally agree with all above. Deleting posts is an easy way for moderators to hide problems, but it solves nothing. And the fact that moderators hide themselves behind their anonymity, never give reasons of their deletions to the authors of the posts, and cannot be joined by private message make their action very frustrating for those who would really want to see things get better.

I fell in love with dvdprofiler seven years ago. It was young, had some imperfections, but that was a pleasure to contribute hundreds of new titles, elaborate translation files for people having the same language than yours, and share layouts. Now, the program grew up, is nearly perfect as a software, though bad choices have been made for the online database. But this place is no more one where we are happy to share anything, and I'm obliged to note that the owners of the site do not really want to take the necessary measures.

Love has gone. Remains just a sad story... 

On one of the forums I do mod we have the policy not to edit other peoples post, but in the rare occasion that it does happen, we will always add something like:

**edited by: moderator
reason: not the right board**

If we do delete a post, it automatically adds a:

This post has been deleted by <moderator> on <date-time>, but can still be seen by moderators
Reason: <insert reason>

Quoting surfeur51:

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Totally agree with all above. Deleting posts is an easy way for moderators to hide problems, but it solves nothing. And the fact that moderators hide themselves behind their anonymity, never give reasons of their deletions to the authors of the posts, and cannot be joined by private message make their action very frustrating for those who would really want to see things get better.

I fell in love with dvdprofiler seven years ago. It was young, had some imperfections, but that was a pleasure to contribute hundreds of new titles, elaborate translation files for people having the same language than yours, and share layouts. Now, the program grew up, is nearly perfect as a software, though bad choices have been made for the online database. But this place is no more one where we are happy to share anything, and I'm obliged to note that the owners of the site do not really want to take the necessary measures.

Love has gone. Remains just a sad story... 

I can agree to a point here. Problem from my POV, is that I engaged in a multi-year labor of love for the benefit of the Community, for  which I have received little but abuse and nasty comments from some users and others who think they know far more than theyb really do, and that to me is insuilting beyond belief. Some of the same users whop are screaming about tolerance are siome of the most intolerant people I have ever known.

But he is right; "Love has gone. Remains just a sad story...  " and this not because of Ken and Gerri, but because of a handful of users who have personal vendettas and wish to control thought and speech.

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Quoting Forum Moderator:

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Just a reminder to keep things non-personal - no personal attacks.

Well, we already know that message...   

But as this topic is about your role, won't it be interesting to have your own point of view ?? 

I have to agree.

I agree also.