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Cast contribution question. Anime television series.
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DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantVittra
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Hello all!

Came across this a couple of questions that I'd like some input on in regards to an anime title I'm currently profiling.  The title is Rurouni Kenshin, the television series for those interested. 

The DVD has one cast list for the English voice actors present after all the episodes have run (one cast list at the very end of the DVD, not seperate cast lists after each episode). There is an option in the "Extras" section to view the Japanese credits which has one for each episode. So my first question is how I should use dividers on this title? The Japanese Credits of course should be seperated with episode names per the rules. But what about the English Credits. Just one divider at the very end saying "English Cast" and a list of all those listed in said Credits?

The problem that I'm running into is that if I do the above, what will I do when I add the cast of said DVD to the parent box set profile which has multiple DVDs creditted exactly the way I explained. The Japanese cast of course would be easy but I'm not sure what to do about the English Cast. I can put each DVD's English casts at the end of each DVD's Japanese cast, but would I then lable them "English Cast Ep. 1-4", "English Cast Ep. 5-8", and so on? Another option is that I can use the Japanese cast lists to determine which characters appear in each episode and split up the English cast with episode dividers. This would solve the whole problem, but would also, from my interpretation, be not following the rules. Sorry if this a confusing question, I'm having a bit of trouble trying to explain it.

My second question, which I believe I already know the answer to but would like some confirmation, is also in regards to the English cast as credited. They list each actor with a list of each character they voiced seperated by "/".  For example:

John Smith.........Man/Old Woman/Small Child
Jane Smith.........Police Officer/Grandma/Young woman

Do I credit these on one line for each actor entry or split them up into 3 seperate entry's for each actor. Following the rules I would say Enter in each actor once and their Role would be exactly "Man/Old Woman/Small Child" with a voice indicator of course. Just want to make sure before I contribute either way though.

Sorry for the long post, hopefully it is clear enough for some help! 
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When they are listed in the credits like that...

John Smith.........Man/Old Woman/Small Child
Jane Smith.........Police Officer/Grandma/Young woman

I use one line... exactly as credited goes for the character names as well. As long as it fits. If it don't fit is the only time I would use a second listing of an actor for those types of credits.

I have no experience with such titles... so I don't have an answer for you on the first question. Sorry.
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Thanks Pete!

You've always been very helpful in your posts, and always seem to be the first to reply to my questions, thanks. 

It would be nice to get a concrete answer for my first question though. Many animes actually have this format. Since they are originally aired in Japan on TV, there will always be a Japanese Cast listing after each episode. But since in the US they are only transelated and often times put directly to DVD, they will clump the English cast at the very end of the DVD. So this will come up quite a bit for me as I am primarily profiling anime titles. 

Anybody else have any experience with bilingual TV series with this type of formating?
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I agree with everything Pete said.  As for the cast list, I know we have a fairly large anime community here.  You might get a better response from them if you added that word to your post title.
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I agree with Unicus and Pete.

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I would use the following Divider:

Disc 1
Japanese Cast
Episode 1
Episode 2
Episode 3
Episode 4
English Cast
Disc 2
...
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Thank you Unicus for the suggestion.

I went ahead and did just that. 
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Quoting Morglum:
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I would use the following Divider:

Disc 1
Japanese Cast
Episode 1
Episode 2
Episode 3
Episode 4
English Cast
Disc 2
...


I thought about this format, which would indeed work. I just wasn't sure if we were supposed to use dividers for Discs. But this would indeed work well and thank you for your input Morglum!
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Quoting Vittra:
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Quoting Morglum:
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I would use the following Divider:

Disc 1
Japanese Cast
Episode 1
Episode 2
Episode 3
Episode 4
English Cast
Disc 2
...


I thought about this format, which would indeed work. I just wasn't sure if we were supposed to use dividers for Discs. But this would indeed work well and thank you for your input Morglum!


I have used Divider for Discs before and it was never a problem.
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I wouldn't use disc dividers... I would just do episode dividers... I am a huge collector of TV Series and I never seen Disc Dividers used. And the Rules says episode dividers so something like this would be more like..

1. Episode Name (Divider)
Japanese Cast (Divider)
Actor... Role
Actor... Role
Etc.
English Cast (Divider)
Actor... Role
Actor... Role
Etc.
2. Episode Name (Divider)
Japanese Cast (Divider)
Actor... Role
Actor... Role
Etc.
English Cast (Divider)
Actor... Role
Actor... Role
Etc.
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Quoting Morglum:
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Quoting Vittra:
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Quoting Morglum:
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I would use the following Divider:

Disc 1
Japanese Cast
Episode 1
Episode 2
Episode 3
Episode 4
English Cast
Disc 2
...


I thought about this format, which would indeed work. I just wasn't sure if we were supposed to use dividers for Discs. But this would indeed work well and thank you for your input Morglum!


I have used Divider for Discs before and it was never a problem.


It is definitely something I would vote against if I saw it showing up in my profiles.
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I wouldn't use disc dividers... I would just do episode dividers... I am a huge collector of TV Series and I never seen Disc Dividers used. And the Rules says episode dividers so something like this would be more like..

1. Episode Name (Divider)
Japanese Cast (Divider)
Actor... Role
Actor... Role
Etc.
English Cast (Divider)
Actor... Role
Actor... Role
Etc.
2. Episode Name (Divider)
Japanese Cast (Divider)
Actor... Role
Actor... Role
Etc.
English Cast (Divider)
Actor... Role
Actor... Role
Etc.


This is the standard but in this case we have no English Cast lists for single episodes, so this version can't be used.
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ok... I missed where it was said the English Cast only after all episodes run. So in that case I would do it...

1. Episode Name (Divider)
Actor... Role (Japanese cast from credits)
Actor... Role (Japanese cast from credits)
2. Episode Name (Divider)
Actor... Role (Japanese cast from credits)
Actor... Role (Japanese cast from credits)
Etc.
English Cast (Divider)
Actor... Role
Actor... Role
Etc.

And would still not use Disc dividers as I said before.
Pete
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I wouldn't use disc dividers... I would just do episode dividers... I am a huge collector of TV Series and I never seen Disc Dividers used. And the Rules says episode dividers so something like this would be more like..

1. Episode Name (Divider)
Japanese Cast (Divider)
Actor... Role
Actor... Role
Etc.
English Cast (Divider)
Actor... Role
Actor... Role
Etc.
2. Episode Name (Divider)
Japanese Cast (Divider)
Actor... Role
Actor... Role
Etc.
English Cast (Divider)
Actor... Role
Actor... Role
Etc.


See, this wouldn't work unless I use the Japanese Credits to determine which characters from the one clumped together English credits appear in each episode. This can be done of course, and I don't mind doing it, but it isn't how they are displayed on the DVD. And it would also change what you told me about the "John Smith.........Man/Old Woman/Small Child" thing. As the "Old Woman" may not appear until episode 3 and the "Small Child" may not appear until episode 4. If I just duplicate the English Cast 4 times for each episode, this would be incorrect because John Smith does play all three roles, but the second two aren't in episode 1 or 2.
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ok... I missed where it was said the English Cast only after all episodes run. So in that case I would do it...

1. Episode Name (Divider)
Actor... Role (Japanese cast from credits)
Actor... Role (Japanese cast from credits)
2. Episode Name (Divider)
Actor... Role (Japanese cast from credits)
Actor... Role (Japanese cast from credits)
Etc.
English Cast (Divider)
Actor... Role
Actor... Role
Etc.

And would still not use Disc dividers as I said before.


This would work and does work perfectly for the child profile but in the parent profile that has 6 discs it would be a confusing format IMO. Having 4 seperate English Cast listings that have no indication for which episodes they are in reference to other then the 4 previous episode dividers for the Japanese casts.
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OK... I think I am getting confused here... what appears at the end of each episode?
Pete
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