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| Registered: March 13, 2007 |  Posts: 453 |
| | Posted: | | | | Rating Mouseover to also be capitalized like the rating rules. |
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| Registered: March 14, 2007 |  Posts: 2,366 |
| | Posted: | | | | If done please only for region 1 and the rule should be adjusted consequently. | | | Martin Zuidervliet
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| Registered: July 31, 2008 | Reputation:  |  Posts: 2,506 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Daddy DVD: Quote:
If done please only for region 1 and the rule should be adjusted consequently. Agreed. I have had to vote no to a lot of UK titles submitting rating details because of this capitalisation rule. Surely it would be better to use a rule from elsewhere, to copy exactly unless all caps in which case to use standard capitalisation rules. |
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| Registered: March 15, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 5,459 |
| | Posted: | | | | Personally I find this new rule very strange. A lot of ratings descriptions here in the UK at least are written as sentences, and to capitalise all the words just seems odd. Was sentence case ever considered as an alternative for this rule? As for the feature request, I agree with the others: capitalise the region 1 descriptions, leave ours alone!  |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation:  | | Posts: 17,330 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting northbloke: Quote:
Personally I find this new rule very strange. A lot of ratings descriptions here in the UK at least are written as sentences, and to capitalise all the words just seems odd.
Was sentence case ever considered as an alternative for this rule?
As for the feature request, I agree with the others: capitalise the region 1 descriptions, leave ours alone! It started out in the rules (and a filter to force it for contributions) as just a sentence... most people was so unhappy with it that Ken changed it to what it is now.... where most people agreed it was the best choice out of the choices given to us. So yes... it was considered... actually more then considered it was enforced in the beginning. | | | | Pete |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 13,201 |
| | Posted: | | | | As Pete noted, sentence case was considered. As I recall, some of our German friends were not happy about it because 'sentence case' is different in german...they capitalize all nouns...as well as other languages. During this discussion, Ken settled on the 'title' rule. Seems it was the perfect compromise as nobody seems to be happy about it.  | | | No dictator, no invader can hold an imprisoned population by force of arms forever.
There is no greater power in the universe than the need for freedom.
Against this power, governments and tyrants and armies cannot stand.
The Centauri learned this lesson once.
We will teach it to them again.
Though it take a thousand years, we will be free.
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 2,759 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Unicus69: Quote:
As Pete noted, sentence case was considered. As I recall, some of our German friends were not happy about it because 'sentence case' is different in german...they capitalize all nouns...as well as other languages. During this discussion, Ken settled on the 'title' rule. Seems it was the perfect compromise as nobody seems to be happy about it. Standard sentence case according to the locality's language would have been fine for most German friends, I guess. But sentence case as well as title case tend to be different for different languages. EDIT: Sentence case has never been considered publicly by Invelos. Invelos has used "first letter only capitalisation" which is not used in any language that I know. | | | | Last edited: by RHo |
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| Registered: July 31, 2008 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 2,506 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting RHo: Quote:
Quoting Unicus69:
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As Pete noted, sentence case was considered. As I recall, some of our German friends were not happy about it because 'sentence case' is different in german...they capitalize all nouns...as well as other languages. During this discussion, Ken settled on the 'title' rule. Seems it was the perfect compromise as nobody seems to be happy about it.
Standard sentence case according to the locality's language would have been fine for most German friends, I guess. But sentence case as well as title case tend to be different for different languages.
EDIT: Sentence case has never been considered publicly by Invelos. Invelos has used "first letter only capitalisation" which is not used in any language that I know. For what would be entered into the rating details field, English would only have the first letter capitalised. |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 13,201 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting RHo: Quote:
Standard sentence case according to the locality's language would have been fine for most German friends, I guess. But sentence case as well as title case tend to be different for different languages. You are correct, but most people want some consistency. As Martin has pointed out, in one of these threads, when you mouse over the ratings, the meaning of that rating is in 'sentence case'...meaning only the first letter is capitalized. Ken can't possibly account for every variation, so a single standard should be use. I don't care what that standard is, as long as they match. Quote:
EDIT: Sentence case has never been considered publicly by Invelos. Invelos has used "first letter only capitalisation" which is not used in any language that I know. There are no 'proper nouns' in any rating detail that I have ever seen. That being the case, proper capitalization would be 'first letter only'. | | | No dictator, no invader can hold an imprisoned population by force of arms forever.
There is no greater power in the universe than the need for freedom.
Against this power, governments and tyrants and armies cannot stand.
The Centauri learned this lesson once.
We will teach it to them again.
Though it take a thousand years, we will be free.
- Citizen G'Kar |
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| Registered: May 9, 2007 | | Posts: 1,536 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Unicus69: Quote:
There are no 'proper nouns' in any rating detail that I have ever seen. That being the case, proper capitalization would be 'first letter only'. What about words like Fear, Violence? Are they improper nouns? | | | | Hans |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 17,330 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Staid S Barr: Quote:
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There are no 'proper nouns' in any rating detail that I have ever seen. That being the case, proper capitalization would be 'first letter only'.
What about words like Fear, Violence? Are they improper nouns? Now it has been a while since I been in English class... so someone can correct me if I am mistaken... but as far as I remember a proper noun is a person's name or a brand name... something like that. So my name (Pete) would be a proper noun as would be something like Microsoft, Nike, Nintendo, Playstation and so on. but no... violence and fear would not be. OK guys... am I mistaken... after all it has been over 20yrs since I went to school!  | | | | Pete |
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| Registered: July 31, 2008 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 2,506 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Addicted2DVD: Quote:
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Quoting Unicus69:
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There are no 'proper nouns' in any rating detail that I have ever seen. That being the case, proper capitalization would be 'first letter only'.
What about words like Fear, Violence? Are they improper nouns?
Now it has been a while since I been in English class... so someone can correct me if I am mistaken... but as far as I remember a proper noun is a person's name or a brand name... something like that. So my name (Pete) would be a proper noun as would be something like Microsoft, Nike, Nintendo, Playstation and so on. but no... violence and fear would not be.
OK guys... am I mistaken... after all it has been over 20yrs since I went to school! Sounds correct to me. Place names like London, Washington, Paris, etc... are also included. |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 17,330 |
| | Posted: | | | | yup... that is right... places as well. | | | | Pete |
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| Registered: March 14, 2007 | | Posts: 2,366 |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 13,201 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Staid S Barr: Quote:
Quoting Unicus69:
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There are no 'proper nouns' in any rating detail that I have ever seen. That being the case, proper capitalization would be 'first letter only'.
What about words like Fear, Violence? Are they improper nouns? There are common nouns and proper nouns. A common noun is any person, place or thing. A proper noun, on the other hand, is a specific name of a person, a place or a thing. Words like fear and violence would be common nouns. | | | No dictator, no invader can hold an imprisoned population by force of arms forever.
There is no greater power in the universe than the need for freedom.
Against this power, governments and tyrants and armies cannot stand.
The Centauri learned this lesson once.
We will teach it to them again.
Though it take a thousand years, we will be free.
- Citizen G'Kar |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 2,759 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Unicus69: Quote:
You are correct, but most people want some consistency. As Martin has pointed out, in one of these threads, when you mouse over the ratings, the meaning of that rating is in 'sentence case'...meaning only the first letter is capitalized. Ken can't possibly account for every variation, so a single standard should be use. I don't care what that standard is, as long as they match. Sentence capitalisation according to the language used would have been exactly as consistent as title capitalisation according to the language used which we have now. For me both rules are as consistent as they can be. For me it would be inconsistent to capitalise any text without considering the language the text is written in. | | | | Last edited: by RHo |
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