Just wanted to apologize for mistakes made while trying to vote on a contribution (Sleepless In Seattle: 10th Anniversary Edition).  Wasn't sure whether to vote Yes, No or Neutral and wanted to comment that the corrections to the overview were all good with the exception of the incorrect spelling of the word "Seattle" as in, "who deluge his Seatlle (sic) home."  I voted Yes and then in an effort to amend my first vote, stupidly added a neutral vote and in neither vote did I make a comment.   

What is the general rule on this, when you agree with all corrections made within a contribution, but notice one small piece that was missed?  Do you vote "yes" and add comments or do you vote "neutral." ?  I don't believe it's possible to leave comments for a neutral vote -- or is it?

"Neutral" means not to vote at all, the contribution just disappears from your list but the contributor can't see your vote.
"Yes" means you know the contribution to be correct or that you trust the sources given by the contributor
"No" means you know the contribution to be incorrect or the sources to be invalid, for giving a "NO" you have to give a mandatory explanation.

If in doubt how to vote feel free to send the contributor a PM with your question, usually he/she will try to answer.

So a vote doesn't necessarily mean that you personally do agree or disagree with the submission on a personal basis. Quite often you will meet contributions where the coverscans don't match the version of your DVD. This is because in the maindatabase we use the data of the first release, the data of later releases with the same UPC is either available via Disc-ID or just local.

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Just wanted to apologize for mistakes made while trying to vote on a contribution (Sleepless In Seattle: 10th Anniversary Edition).  Wasn't sure whether to vote Yes, No or Neutral and wanted to comment that the corrections to the overview were all good with the exception of the incorrect spelling of the word "Seattle" as in, "who deluge his Seatlle (sic) home."  I voted Yes and then in an effort to amend my first vote, stupidly added a neutral vote and in neither vote did I make a comment.   

What is the general rule on this, when you agree with all corrections made within a contribution, but notice one small piece that was missed?  Do you vote "yes" and add comments or do you vote "neutral." ?  I don't believe it's possible to leave comments for a neutral vote -- or is it?

Bad data is bad data, KC and shpould be voted NO, hopefully the user would monitor his votes and make the correction. If he does NOT why should we approve BAD DATA that someone else will have to come back and fix.

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Bad data is bad data, KC and shpould be voted NO, hopefully the user would monitor his votes and make the correction. If he does NOT why should we approve BAD DATA that someone else will have to come back and fix.

I don't think all bad data is created equal.

I agree. I'm loath to vote "no" on a submission if for example, the user has fixed some existing errors but not all. I have done in the past, but I've also voted yes if say, it's a new user more likely to take a "no" vote personally.

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JWhat is the general rule on this, when you agree with all corrections made within a contribution, but notice one small piece that was missed?  Do you vote "yes" and add comments or do you vote "neutral." ?

That depends very much on how much was done to the profile. If, for example, the contributor added cast, crew and overview where there was none before, and there is a small typo in the overview, I vote yes. If the contributor submits only an overview with a typo in it, I vote note, even if there was no overview before. In both cases, I point out the typo in my comments. I only use the Neutral-vote for submissions where I'm not 100% sure if it is right or wrong - I almost always use it for titles in my wishlist, as I really have no way of knowing if it is good or bad data - except I sometimes vote for cover-scans...

Now, the above is what I generally do. What I do in reality also depends on who the contributor is. There are some contributors where I have gotten the impression that they never read the comments - and there are one user whose contribs i practically always vote neutral to, as he always votes Yes to anything! I have NEVER seen a no-vote from that user, even for contributions that are obviously bogus. It is not uncommon for a contribution to have 6-8 no-votes, and then he comes along and plants the only yes-vote - always without comments. He doesn't seem to read PM's either, so trying to "educate" him is kind of a lost cause, I think...

Okay, enough ranting... 

Screeners need to get their act together.

I just voted no on a contribution that audited the cast making several changes.

One actor/role was omitted and I listed it in my note for the no vote.

The contribution was approved. Go figure!

Jim

I usually vote to the greater effect, send the contributor a PM (particularly if not fully commented,) and try to make note of potentially problem updates coming down the pipe.  Only the contributor will ever have access to the voting after it is processed, so nit-picking the vote appears to have little value, even if we do not receive a negative from it.

What I would really rather have is the option for line-item voting with a "Check all yes/no" box at the top.  If we can pick-and-choose what to contribute, why can't the profile contributions be screened likewise?

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I usually vote to the greater effect, send the contributor a PM (particularly if not fully commented,) and try to make note of potentially problem updates coming down the pipe.  Only the contributor will ever have access to the voting after it is processed, so nit-picking the vote appears to have little value, even if we do not receive a negative from it.

What I would really rather have is the option for line-item voting with a "Check all yes/no" box at the top.  If we can pick-and-choose what to contribute, why can't the profile contributions be screened likewise?

The Rules do not provide for "greater effect". While item voting would increase the workload on all of us, it would be good to implement.

By voting to greater effect or whatever you want to call it, what are you saying to other users and to the contributor. What you tell me when you vote Yes to errors is that you simply don't care about the database and the work we are trying to do. The user who ignores a legitimate is telling me the same thing, and quite frankly if you don't care enough....

When I contributed and should i decide to do so again, I demand the best of myself, even if it means a contribution from hell, which we have all seen. I work as part of a very large team and i will not let the team down, good enough is NOT good enough, I will not ask any of you to vote Yes to any error I might make and i will fix them because I DO care about the quazlity of what we are trying to do.

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