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| Registered: March 14, 2007 | | Posts: 3,830 |
| | Posted: | | | | While profiling this movie, I found following uncredited cast: Melissa Biggs ... Model #1 (uncredited) (exact IMDb copy) Don Cheadle ... Kenny (uncredited) (exact IMDb copy) Andy Cheng ... Hu Li's assistant (uncredited) (exact IMDb copy) Roger Lim ... Triad gangster (uncredited) (exact IMDb copy) Cynthia Pinot ... Highroller (uncredited) (exact IMDb copy) Ivan Shaw ... Triad gangster (uncredited) (exact IMDb copy) Michael A. Tessiero ... Gambler (uncredited) (exact IMDb copy) Jodi Lynn Thomas ... Club Girl (uncredited) (exact IMDb copy) Natasha Yi ... Heaven on Earth host (uncredited) (exact IMDb copy) and finding identical name (reversals/typo's) with this cast: Pang Wing Sang (Wing Sang Pang ... Suit Salesman (exact IMDb copy)) Mei Ling Wong (Ling Wong Mei ... Chicken Lady (exact IMDb copy)) James J. Ghang (James J. Chang ... Red Dragon Stickman | | | | Sources for one or more of the changes and/or additions were not submitted. Please include the sources for your changes in the contribution notes, especially for cast and crew additions. | | | | Last edited: by ? |
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| Registered: March 14, 2007 |  Posts: 2,366 |
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| Registered: March 14, 2007 | | Posts: 3,830 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Daddy DVD: Quote:
Is it really necessary to create 5 separate topics for 1 movie?  These are different topics?Was not aware you could only post one topic/movie  | | | | Sources for one or more of the changes and/or additions were not submitted. Please include the sources for your changes in the contribution notes, especially for cast and crew additions. | | | | Last edited: by ? |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 4,596 |
| | Posted: | | | | The uncredited cast lists don't look identical to me:
IMDb: 17 uncredited
Melissa Biggs ... Model #1 (uncredited)
Don Cheadle ... Kenny (uncredited)
Andy Cheng ... Hu Li's assistant (uncredited)
Tom Sean Foley ... Casino Stunt (uncredited)
Constance Hsu ... Prostitute (uncredited)
James Lew ... Triad gangster (uncredited)
Roger Lim ... Triad gangster (uncredited)
Kathryn Melton ... Office Assistant (uncredited)
Cynthia Pinot ... Highroller (uncredited)
Nicholas Rich ... Truck driver (uncredited)
Ivan Shaw ... Triad gangster (uncredited)
Lina So ... Cashier (uncredited)
Reggi Danielle Sweat ... High Roller Girl (uncredited)
Michael A. Tessiero ... Gambler (uncredited)
Jodi Lynn Thomas ... Club Girl (uncredited)
Juting Tsang ... Heaven on Earth host (uncredited)
Natasha Yi ... Heaven on Earth host (uncredited)
DVD Profiler: 9 uncredited
Melissa Biggs ... Model #1 (uncredited)
Don Cheadle ... Kenny (uncredited)
Andy Cheng ... Hu Li's assistant (uncredited)
Roger Lim ... Triad gangster (uncredited)
Cynthia Pinot ... Highroller (uncredited)
Ivan Shaw ... Triad gangster (uncredited)
Michael A. Tessiero ... Gambler (uncredited)
Jodi Lynn Thomas ... Club Girl (uncredited)
Natasha Yi ... Heaven on Earth host (uncredited) | | | | My WebGenDVD online Collection | | | | Last edited: by Bad Father |
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| Registered: March 14, 2007 | | Posts: 3,830 |
| | Posted: | | | | yeah, is an ongoing thing adding uncredited cast at IMDb, a bit odd the same thing with the other names not? exact same roles for uncredited cast? | | | | Sources for one or more of the changes and/or additions were not submitted. Please include the sources for your changes in the contribution notes, especially for cast and crew additions. | | | | Last edited: by ? |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 4,596 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Giga Wizard: Quote:
yeah, is an ongoing thing adding uncredited cast at IMDb, a bit odd the same thing with the other names not? exact same roles for uncredited cast? Not odd at all. For example, where does one go to get role names for cast members for TV series where no roles are given? IMDb and other sites  . | | | | My WebGenDVD online Collection |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 |  Posts: 1,242 |
| | Posted: | | | | I do believe that "The Ken"'s view on removing 'uncredited cast' was that if it could be proved to be a direct copy of IMDb that was documentation enough to remove them.
So since it appears a direct copy I would vote Yes to remove.
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| Registered: June 12, 2007 | Reputation:  |  Posts: 2,665 |
| | Posted: | | | | It is a direct enough match i'd vote for it as well. | | | | Bad movie? You're soaking in it! |
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| Registered: April 13, 2007 |  Posts: 651 |
| | Posted: | | | | What does previous notes say? If it says only New Contribution, and there's no documentation of uncredited cast in previous, I would remove them. I do that sometimes, I check previous notes, and add that in my notes when I remove uncredited cast, when previous only say new contribution. Sometimes notes says that it's taken from allready approved version (12345...etc) I check that profile too to see the notes on that if they are documented. If they are documented there, I leave them in my profile, and sat that in my notes that UC is documented from 14253...etc. | | | "What's God?"
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation:  | | Posts: 13,202 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting snarbo: Quote:
I do believe that "The Ken"'s view on removing 'uncredited cast' was that if it could be proved to be a direct copy of IMDb that was documentation enough to remove them.
So since it appears a direct copy I would vote Yes to remove.
Steve Agreed. | | | No dictator, no invader can hold an imprisoned population by force of arms forever.
There is no greater power in the universe than the need for freedom.
Against this power, governments and tyrants and armies cannot stand.
The Centauri learned this lesson once.
We will teach it to them again.
Though it take a thousand years, we will be free.
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| Registered: March 14, 2007 | | Posts: 3,830 |
| | Posted: | | | | Good Question: The Contribution Notes: Posted: May 18, 2007 6:29 PM:New ContributionPosted: June 10, 2007 5:10 PM:Added country of origin. Added DVD distributor 'Paradiso Home Entertainment'. Added easter egg. Minor corrections to overview (e.g. "hans" to "Hands") to match back cover EXACTLY. Measured aspect ratio to be 2.40:1. Verified, using PowerDVD, actual running time to be 86 minutes.Posted: June 13, 2007 8:53 AMCrew: added sound credits, art directors, original characters by - all taken straight from film credits. Corrected producer's name Jan Stern to Jay Stern (as credited).Posted: June 19, 2007 9:37 AMCorrected cast exactly as credited - taken from actual credits - resulting in shorter role names. For instance, Jackie Chan is credited simply as "Lee", not as "Chief Inspector Lee", and so on... Expanded disc ID.Posted: September 3, 2007 9:37 PMAdded missing commentary audio track. Added missing features. Added my disc ID.Posted: September 8, 2007 11:08 AMAdded missing feature.Posted: March 18, 2008 2:02 PMThe current profile contains a producer entry for "Arthur M. Sarkissian, credited as Arthur Sarkissian". Further research has shown me that I don't own a single title in which he's actually credited with that alledged middle initial - instead, he's credited simply as Arthur Sarkissian every single time, like he is here. A search in Invelos' own "credit lookup" tool confirms my suspicions:Arthur Sarkissian: 69 entries,Arthur M. Sarkissian: 41 entries (including many incorrect 'Rush Hour' entries).Anyway, this means that for DVD Profiler purposes, "Arthur Sarkissian" is his common name, and as such, he can simply be entered "as credited" in this particular profile.Posted: June 15, 2008 11:22 PMImproved the covers----------------------------- Got one Vote on this profile:  : There's no reason to remove the perfectly valid (uncredited) cast: the list is CERTAINLY NOT identical to IMDb or any other 3rd party source! ----------------------------- | | | | Sources for one or more of the changes and/or additions were not submitted. Please include the sources for your changes in the contribution notes, especially for cast and crew additions. | | | | Last edited: by ? |
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  | T!M | | Profiling since Dec. 2000 |
| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 8,736 |
| | Posted: | | | | For the record: I notice that your update also introduces a new parsing error - you've used Lisa/Lo/Cicero. AFAIK, "Lo" is part of her last name, not a middle name - it's comparable to "Le" or "La". Sources that confirm this are Wikipedia ("When the series was spun-off as The City, Lo Cicero went with the show") or her official demo reel at ReelAccess, which shows her (not only on the page, but also in the reel itself) as Lisa LoCicero, without the space. Now the "common" variant may well be the one WITH the space, but it's still a pretty good sign that "Lo" belongs in the "last name" field. | | | | Last edited: by T!M |
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| Registered: March 14, 2007 | | Posts: 3,830 |
| | Posted: | | | | I wonder how it got in the profile first? Lo Cicero? Quote:
Corrected cast exactly as credited | | | | Sources for one or more of the changes and/or additions were not submitted. Please include the sources for your changes in the contribution notes, especially for cast and crew additions. |
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| T!M | | Profiling since Dec. 2000 |
| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 8,736 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Giga Wizard: Quote:
I wonder how it got in the profile first? Lo Cicero?
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Corrected cast exactly as credited It has the correct value in the "credited as" field. It was entered as "Lisa LoCicero [Lisa Lo Cicero]", which I can only assume was fully supported by the CLT results when it was entered as such. Now that the CLT balance has shifted away from the IMDb-name (judging by the ReelAccess-clip, her real name), there is indeed no longer need to use the "common name". She seems to be mostly credited with the space, so she can simply be entered "as credited". So I'm with you all the way up until that point. But you didn't just do that; you also made the unexplained and incorrect change to move "Lo" to the middle name field - and that's where we part ways. I agree that she should be entered as "Lisa Lo Cicero", but it should be parsed as Lisa//Lo Cicero. |
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| Registered: March 14, 2007 | | Posts: 3,830 |
| | Posted: | | | | but Quote:
it should be parsed as Lisa//Lo Cicero others will say Lisa/Lo/Cicero I have no idea or confirmation that it would be handled differently for DVD Profiler 1/2/3. Quote:
it's comparable to "Le" or "La". French, I believe. The only information available to me: LeLaLo and Quote:
Lisa Lo Cicero (born April 18, 1970) is an American actress | | | | Sources for one or more of the changes and/or additions were not submitted. Please include the sources for your changes in the contribution notes, especially for cast and crew additions. | | | | Last edited: by ? |
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| Registered: March 14, 2007 | | Posts: 3,830 |
| | Posted: | | | | I can not second guess what users are doing in contributions as they are not required to document any changes they make, be happy, I document my changes, so you know what is going on. | | | | Sources for one or more of the changes and/or additions were not submitted. Please include the sources for your changes in the contribution notes, especially for cast and crew additions. |
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