While I was ordering “Boomerang’, ‘Moontide’ and ‘Road House’, Sept. 1, 2008, I ordered another film
set of the noir genre, ‘A Blueprint for Murder / Man in the Attic’.

‘A Blueprint for Murder and Man in the Attic’ were released Sept. 2, 2007, and are older films and
relatively easy to profile, so I proceeded to profile them.

When I checked the existing profile for these two films against the DVDs I found a number of cast and
crew members that did not exist in the film credits and were not marked as uncredited. I checked
them against the IMDB listings and found that both cast and crew lists in the profiled were an exact
copies of the IMDB listings.

The contribution notes stated that data was taken from the discs. I wonder how many others are out
there.

I can understand this occurring for profiles carried over from the old site, but not profiles entered since
Invelos came into existence.

I agree,, and what I usually do in a case like that is I check the 'contribution notes and approval dates' , and if it is an Invelos ID  name I recognise,. I'd usually pay more attention to their forth coming contributions in the near future...

Very simple, if the credits don't martch, remove the data that is not credited. Don't simply mark it (uncredited). It is a shame that we have some less honest users, but look at the bright side, once you know who the are....

Also regrettable to see what Steve describes, and we have users who are trying to innocently assist users by teaching them to run before they can even walk, that is a recipe for disaster.

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I think if someone contributed IMDB data and deliberately lied in their contribution notes, they should be reported to Ken/Gerri.  Perhaps they can send a warning or simply suspend them.  Plus they may also have a way to look at their other contributions to see if this was a one time offense or a pattern of abuse.

just got my contrinution of "The Patriot" approved where I removed plenty of uncredited and not on the credit cast: 8-712609-028508 Netherlands Locality

Removed as not in the credits:
Ricardo Bunge as Townsperson, Upper middle-class (-) imDB : Ricardo Bunge Townsman (uncredited)
Sam Edens as Redcoat/Continental/French Sergeant (-) (imDB : Sam Edens Redcoat / Continental / French Sergeant (uncredited))
...

Removed Following uncredited:
Julian Adams as Redcoat Private (uncredited) Julian Adams (II) Redcoat Private (uncredited)
Tara Ballard as Townsperson at Pembroke(uncredite) ( Tara Ballard Townsperson at Pembroke )
...
Over 40 like that.
these where the giveaway the data was copied:
Terry Layman as Gen. George Washington > General George Washington
Samuel Brown Jr. as Gullah Musician > Samuel Brown, Jr. (Patriot is the only credit)
Samuel Brown Sr. as Gullah Musician > Samuel Brown, Sr. (Patriot is the only credit)

Quoting kdh1949:

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Since new contributions go live so quickly now, it shouldn't take long for other users to catch bad contributions and upload corrections which WILL be up for voting purposes.  Granted it's not an ideal situation, but it's much better than it used to be.

As xyrano wrote in another thread:

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The contribution system is built upon faith

and that's where the problem starts, if I don't see obvious errors in a contribution I believe that it's correct. I simply don't have the time to countercheck every contribution (but who has?). So "bad" profiles are still likely to pass through unnoticed.
On the other hand if a user finds out about masscopies of third party material and publishes this in the forum, it's quite likely that even then nothing happens.
Latest example: The Dark Crystal. On 08/06 I informed about the error and described how the false profiles could be recognized. Today, one month later only two profiles have been corrected.
So much for that.

Quoting goblinsdoitall:

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and that's where the problem starts, if I don't see obvious errors in a contribution I believe that it's correct. I simply don't have the time to countercheck every contribution (but who has?). So "bad" profiles are still likely to pass through unnoticed.
On the other hand if a user finds out about masscopies of third party material and publishes this in the forum, it's quite likely that even then nothing happens.

I'm not sure that voting on new profiles would solve these problems.

Quoting tarantino:

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Quoting northbloke:

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I always thought it was a shame that new contributions never go up for a vote.
If everyone was able to see and vote on new contributions for their own locality, I'm sure that would help.

That will be opening the door for votes on a dvd  you don't own and you don't have in hands.
How are you suppose to evaluate the covers, features, languages, overview, etc?

The solution to this problem will more likely involves adding new screeners to each locality.  So they have less dvds in the queue to approve and be able to look more closely at the information.

That door is already open - you can vote for items in your wish list: e.g. you don't have to own the title to vote on in...