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Not as many R2 Contributions as in the past?
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DVD Profiler Unlimited Registrantscottclr
Registered: September 1, 2007
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Is there more of a problem getting Region 2 (europe) DVD contributions to the database lately?  I've a multiregion player and buy R1 & R2 DVDs.  When keying in the UPC from R1 DVDs, there has always been a fairly complete (with covers & lots of detail) entry.  However just lately when adding newish R2 DVDs titles, i've found some of them either arent in the database (so i've contributed some details) or the covers are missing.  These are fairly popular titles like American Pie All 6 Slices boxset (now contributed by me) that has been out since last xmas.  Maybe its just my recent R2 DVD purchases.
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There have been a couple of occasions when I've been surprised to find a certain DVD isn't already in the database, but like you I just figured it was my strange taste in film 
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Maybe in the past all R2 contributions landed in the UK, whereas now they are properly distributed over the localities?
I haven't seen an obvious decline in UK, DE or NL titles being contributed, but there are rumours about FR...
A quick check is to look at the length of the future releases list.
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I find that it is pretty much the same as always. Swedish releases are often missing, UK ones not as often and US ones exist most of the time. Of course, the fact that I have started to acquire BDs hasn't made it easier to add new releases because fewer people have BD players than DVD players.
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Is there more of a problem getting Region 2 (europe) DVD contributions to the database lately?  I've a multiregion player and buy R1 & R2 DVDs.  When keying in the UPC from R1 DVDs, there has always been a fairly complete (with covers & lots of detail) entry.  However just lately when adding newish R2 DVDs titles, i've found some of them either arent in the database (so i've contributed some details) or the covers are missing.  These are fairly popular titles like American Pie All 6 Slices boxset (now contributed by me) that has been out since last xmas.  Maybe its just my recent R2 DVD purchases.
Another reason could be the EAN, most titles are re-released under different EAN, if no EAN exists try adding by disc-id, sometimes it is in the online database, if that did not work try adding by title and select the one close to your locality (usable for you and modify the contribution)
Sources for one or more of the changes and/or additions were not submitted. Please include the sources for your changes in the contribution notes, especially for cast and crew additions.
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It's not that they've been re-released with a different EAN (barcode), i've checked in the database for that and these are UK region 2 titles.  I guess we should expect there to be more region 1 contributions just based on the number of users in that teritory.

In the old days, I used to purchase far more region 1 (than region 2) because movies nearly always came out sooner on region 1 (often whilst they were still showing at UK cinemas) & also it tended to be cheaper to buy the region 1 disc that had to be imported, then to buy the region 2 copy.  Business practise has changed over the last few years and it doesn't seem cheaper anymore (unless you import region 3 DVDs) & movies tend to come out on R2 DVD at about the same time as R1 DVD Which means i'm buying more region 2 than I used to and running into this problem more often.

I kind of miss those days, being able to import a DVD that was still at the cinema here was pretty cool.  But alas as the world gets smaller, the studios have to think differently.  Nearly all new movies come out at cinemas at around the same time accross the western world, these days.
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Registered: August 23, 2007
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Perhaps  the number of R2 locality members in a position to contribute to DVD Profiler is less than that for R1; maybe the lower spending power of UK DVD buyers is less than that of the US and thus lacks the same 'recklessness' (570 DVDs still to watch??); maybe the level of renting against purchasing by UK members is higher.

But maybe it all comes down to storage: the UK home is much much smaller than the average US dwelling...
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... and ever since work's firewall was updated (which now stops me sending in contributions during the week, when I'm working away from home) it's probably more than halved the number of R2 pre-release titles I used to contribute...
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... and ever since work's firewall was updated (which now stops me sending in contributions during the week, when I'm working away from home) it's probably more than halved the number of R2 pre-release titles I used to contribute...

did you try alternate connection, they may have overlooked this?
Sources for one or more of the changes and/or additions were not submitted. Please include the sources for your changes in the contribution notes, especially for cast and crew additions.
DVD Profiler Desktop and Mobile RegistrantStar ContributorVoltaire53
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... and ever since work's firewall was updated (which now stops me sending in contributions during the week, when I'm working away from home) it's probably more than halved the number of R2 pre-release titles I used to contribute...

did you try alternate connection, they may have overlooked this?


Sadly I have to use 'alternate connection' just to get through at all!

I've tried all sorts but whilst I can download update etc. I can't contribute from work any more

The other reason I've not been doing so many movies is I'm tending to concentrate on classic TV updates (which may not be so popular therefore noticeable in the updates) because, though I don't have a Blu-Ray player I will be getting some of the new movie releases in the format to 'future-proof' myself but not for a while, so there's no reason for me to do them early!
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DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorKonrad
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I think it depends on the locality how well documented region 2 releases are.

All the titles I recently added to my collection from the locality Germany were there already. However, all Japanese Blu-ray discs I acquired since the format's inception I myself had to submit as new contributions. Japan is now sort of a hybrid country as the DVDs are region 2, the BDs are region A.
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well it's been awhile, my lack of a paypal account had stopped me from contributing since the "switch".

but that's finally sorted...so now i just have to sort out the amendments i have made to my local profiles and get contributing.



well that and re-reading the contributing rules to see what has changed!
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One thing that changed... that you won't find in the rules. Invelos has gotten pretty strict on sourcing your information... so you want to be able to source everything you did in your contribution notes. This includes new additions to the database.

Good luck and have fun!
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Quite a bit since the old IVS days! For starters, they are RULES now, not just guidelines, and especially cast and crew needs thorough documentation.
And there might be more changes coming, as Ken has just released a new beta version of the programme with some new features. 

P.S.
Welcome back, by the way! 
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DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar Contributorzwoti
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One thing that changed... that you won't find in the rules. Invelos has gotten pretty strict on sourcing your information... so you want to be able to source everything you did in your contribution notes. This includes new additions to the database.

Good luck and have fun!


source everything?

is it okay to use websites for prices & release dates?
DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorWinston Smith
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Zwoti:

I'll give you a qualified yes toi that. First you have to understand that most of the time MSRP is a movable target that will vary within a relatively narrow range from Retailer to Retailer based on their own individual policies., unless THE diustributor has sent out press release, but even then then the "stores'" policies will dictate their version of SRP. Which is why the Rules state don't change the SRP for pennies, #34.95 is for all intents and purposes identical to $34.99.

As for release date info again yes, but I personally use at least TWO different sources on all such data for verification purposes.

Yes source EVERYTHING, that sounds harder than it is, usually. Cast and Crew data edited and oredited per ACTUAL film credits....is usually sufficient. As long as that is not found to be untrue, and I am not talking about typos or other totally human errors.

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