I just did a google search shows more hits for Tim de Zarn, but it's still mixed as all hell with some De Zran and a few deZarn's thrown in for more confusion. Don't see anything offical either, and nothing on myspace.
I can't call it, but agree one needs to be common and the others credited as to link them all.

Goog luck, I've seen polls like this get out of control quick.

Yet another reason for the no priority name concept for aliases. <sigh>

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the shield: season 3: episode 04. Streaks and Tips: TIM DEZARN

Quoting Giga Wizard:

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found 2 things:
1) 'One Night at McCool's' (2001) is the credit: Tim deZarn.
2) The contribution made had 'Tim deZarn'
either the program or the online forced this to: Tim DeZarn

Hm. This used to work perfectly, but something indeed seems to have gone belly-up here. "Tim deZarn" is indeed the man's "common name", and I have him listed as such in various profiles ('Die Hard 4' and 'Spider-Man' spring to mind). Checking these profiles, they all still contain the proper value - they've not been tampered with whatsoever. If I try recontributing such a profile ("Tim deZarn" both in my local database and already in the online profile), the system detects no difference. BUT: if I add "Tim deZarn to a new profile and try to submit it, the online evaluation screen immediately shows him as "Tim DeZarn". So something has definitely changed: it definitely wasn't like this before, or those other profiles could never have "Tim deZarn" in it, but they do. Lots of them. Suddenly we're unable to add new credits for him "as credited", which happens to be his common name as well? Ken, what happened?!

Quoting Giga Wizard:

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executive decision: tired of the pingpong games?

Well, I welcome any "executive decision" that ensures getting all users on the same page on just about anything, but preferably the right page (for those of you who wouldn't know a joke when it slapped them in the face, I'll throw in a smiley:  ). Seriously though: if he did apply some kind of filter, I'd like to have heard about it, and I'd certainly love to know what the consequences are. If I can no longer enter new credits for "Tim deZarn", should I then also change those existing "Tim deZarn" credits in 'Die Hard 4', 'Spider-Man' and many others to "Tim DeZarn" as well? But that's not how he's credited, nor is it his actual or even his common name. How about "Tim DeZarn [Tim deZarn]"? Not correct either, but at least that retains the "as credited" value. Or would "Tim de Zarn [Tim deZarn]" then be preferable? Just as wrong, but at least that lets us retain the correct capitalization in the common name. Without any further explanation I'm afraid that there's now MORE risk of "pingpong games" than before - if a contribution comes along where someone meddles with either a new or existing entry for Tim deZarn, I currently wouldn't even know how to vote...     

Ken: please let us know if this change is intentional, and if so, how we should deal with it?

Quoting Giga Wizard:

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next step could be all caps as in most of the movie credits. end of all discusions on that basis.

Dear God, I hope not! I can't disagree that it would solve a number of recurring problems, though, but still...

Quoting skipnet50:

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Another case of the caps issue, terry. the program cannot recognize the difference between upper and lower, same as the last actor you asked about. Pick one and use the Credited As system when needed.

I'm sorry, but I have to wonder: do you actually bother to read the threads you post in, or do you just glance at the subject line? Additionally, Terry (widescreenforever), where you're addressing your reply to, hasn't even posted in this thread...

Apparently this Tim deZarn suddenly falls into a group of exceptions where "pick the most-credited form and use the Credited As system when needed" is no longer possible. It is currently NOT possible to contribute an AS CREDITED actor entry for Tim deZarn, even though that is, by far, how he's mostly credited. Existing entries aren't affected yet, but new entries or corrections with "Tim deZarn" in the name fields can no longer be contributed as such. Without further instructions I have no idea how to deal with this.

Somehow, I can't help thinking Ken might have done this as a result of the "k.d. lang" thread. If this is indeed an intended decision to standardize name formatting up to a certain point (as far as I can tell, after some tests, the current filter seems to be something along the lines of "for DVD Profiler purposes, every first letter of every first word entered into any of the three name fields is capitalized, except for known articles, of which the first letter may or may not be capitalized"), then I think that is a significant enough change to let us know about it. I hope Ken will chime in to either confirm or deny this. It's not that I'm against standardization - quite the opposite, actually - but I would like to know about it.  And the next question is: where does that leave us with regards to actors like Tim deZarn, Hank deLuca and similarly formatted names? If we can no longer contribute an AS CREDITED entry for "Tim deZarn", what's the correct entry then?

- Tim DeZarn ?
- Tim DeZarn, credited as Tim deZarn ?
- Tim de Zarn, credited as Tim deZarn ?
- or everyone does as he seems fit ? 

A little guidance wouldn't go amiss...

Quoting northbloke:

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With the number of names that have prefixes, such as "de" I seriously doubt that Ken would have deliberately added a filter to capitalise names in such a way.

This does, indeed, seem to be some sort of filter.  I attempted to upload a profile with 'Tim deZarn' and the comparison showed 'Tim DeZarn'.  When I change the name in my local to 'Tim de Zarn', the comparison screen shows 'Tim de Zarn'.  I am guessing that this has to do with the spacing in the name.  If there is a space between the prefix and the last name, it uploads fine.  Without the space, the program seems to treat it as a single name and automatically capitalizes the name as is the english standard for proper nouns.