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| Registered: March 13, 2007 |  Posts: 465 |
| | Posted: | | | | Ok, here is the situation: Today I corrected the credits for "Miami Vice: Unrated Director's Edition" (UPC 025193326621). One of the cast entries was the actor "Pasha D. Lychnikoff" which I corrected to "Pasha D. Lynchnikoff" as credited. Neither did I add a common name nor did I remove one. One well know community member (no, not Skip  ) immediately voted "No" for my contrbution with the comment "Unless you can prove the CLT wrong Pasha D. Lychnikoff is credited in 28 titles.Pasha D. Lynchnikoff only 7 titles. Use "credited as"." When I sent him a PM he confirmed his opinion. So my question to the community is: Since when am I required to use common names ? Nowhere in the rules does it state that I have to look up every cast or crew member for a possible common name. I do use the credit lookup tool quite often but there is now way I'm acceptiong that I have to do this. What do you think ? | | | | Michael | | | | Last edited: by TigiHof |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 |  Posts: 1,242 |
| | Posted: | | | | Michael Point him at this ThreadAs already stated there...CLT is not the be all and end all of the credits until the database is filled with 100% proved profiles, all the time some still contain either IMDb data (intentionally or not) CLT will not be that accurate. Steve |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 |  Posts: 21,610 |
| | Posted: | | | | Tigi:
You are not required to create a Common name.
Skip | | | ASSUME NOTHING!!!!!!
CBE, MBE, MoA and proud of it.
Outta here
Billy Video |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 465 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting skipnet50: Quote:
Tigi:
You are not required to create a Common name. Thanks, Skip, I thought so. Sometimes I can only shake my head over some fellow profiler users... | | | | Michael |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 21,610 |
| | Posted: | | | | Also i notice that the user provides CLT results but does not provide ANY proof that Lychikoff and Lynchikoff are the same...it looks like a simple typo correction to me.
Skip | | | ASSUME NOTHING!!!!!!
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Billy Video |
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| Registered: April 3, 2007 | Reputation:  | | Posts: 1,998 |
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| Registered: March 14, 2007 | | Posts: 3,830 |
| | Posted: | | | | you are correct TigiHof:
I just updated my profile: Miami Vice 5-050582-444056 (Netherlands) and
Miami Vice 5-050582-501308 (Netherlands)
did you catch the other one: Julia Yarbrough as Herself > Julia Yarbough lousy credits, had to use a magnifying glass.
Just found another one:
Elizabeth Rodriguez as Gina Calabrese > Gina Callabrese | | | | Sources for one or more of the changes and/or additions were not submitted. Please include the sources for your changes in the contribution notes, especially for cast and crew additions. | | | | Last edited: by ? |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 21,610 |
| | Posted: | | | | Yes he did, Giga.
Skip | | | ASSUME NOTHING!!!!!!
CBE, MBE, MoA and proud of it.
Outta here
Billy Video |
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| Registered: March 15, 2007 |  Posts: 131 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting TigiHof: Quote:
So my question to the community is: Since when am I required to use common names ? Nowhere in the rules does it state that I have to look up every cast or crew member for a possible common name. I do use the credit lookup tool quite often but there is now way I'm acceptiong that I have to do this. What do you think ? It's not a requirement. But I see this as a nice gesture to fellow users... because of your change, it will break the link between this movie and other movies with the same actor. And someone will have to submit another change to fix yours... So why not do it correctly right away? Also... You don't have to look up every cast & crew for common name... Just the ones that your are changing  |
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| Registered: May 19, 2007 | Reputation:  | | Posts: 6,730 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting tarantino: Quote:
It's not a requirement.
But I see this as a nice gesture to fellow users... because of your change, it will break the link between this movie and other movies with the same actor.
And someone will have to submit another change to fix yours... So why not do it correctly right away?
Also... You don't have to look up every cast & crew for common name... Just the ones that your are changing Generally agreed, but in this case I think there is a typo spreading through the database which spoils the CLT. EDIT: OMG!! No, I don't want to start a discussion about the quality of the CLT. | | | It all seems so stupid, it makes me want to give up!
But why should I give up, when it all seems so stupid?
Registrant since 05/22/2003 | | | | Last edited: by Lewis_Prothero |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 21,610 |
| | Posted: | | | | Tarantino:
But I see this as a nice gesture to fellow users...... um hum. Our users are so pleasant and polite and non-combative. ROFLMAO. Nice theory.
Skip | | | ASSUME NOTHING!!!!!!
CBE, MBE, MoA and proud of it.
Outta here
Billy Video |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 1,242 |
| | Posted: | | | | Have just submitted the changes for the R2UK profile 5050582453461
Although not a Unrated Director's Cut, it still had the same mistakes.
Steve |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 21,610 |
| | Posted: | | | | Steve: That happens when we blindly copy data from one profile to another. Skip  | | | ASSUME NOTHING!!!!!!
CBE, MBE, MoA and proud of it.
Outta here
Billy Video |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 1,242 |
| | Posted: | | | | Don't I know it. Over here a national daily paper have been giving away some old WWII movies as a promotional gimmick (Yes I've been getting them, one way to increase the collection size, I get the paper anyway), to save time I found the relevant titles in the online with the intention of saving some time, only to find quite alot of the assigned cast / characters were way off.
I do know the ones that I noticed that where incorrect will have the right cast/charater listing for the promotional ID's.
Now if only we could get all DVD's correctly Actor assigned then perhaps the CLT might work the way its intended to.
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| Registered: March 15, 2007 | | Posts: 131 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting goblinsdoitall: Quote:
Generally agreed, but in this case I think there is a typo spreading through the database which spoils the CLT.
EDIT: OMG!! No, I don't want to start a discussion about the quality of the CLT. I agree that this one... is a difficult one. According to imdb, the guy has mostly as many credited names as movies.  CLT is a good tool when we're dealing with typos. But in this case the information is just not reliable and we'll end up with the imdb name as a common name. Edit: He should a good candidate for a topic like this one to clean up the data and agree on a common name. | | | | Last edited: by tarantino |
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| Registered: March 14, 2007 | | Posts: 3,830 |
| | Posted: | | | | So Pasha D. Lynchnikoff is wrongly credited as Pasha D. Lychnikoff.
while your at it please also verify these:
Julia Yarbrough as Herself > Julia Yarbough
Elizabeth Rodriguez as Gina Calabrese > Gina Callabrese in these Miami Vice's:
Deux flics à Miami 2006 5-050582-444032
Deux flics à Miami 2006 5-050582-444049
Miami Vice 2006 5-050582-461213
Miami Vice 2006 5-050582-445305
Miami Vice 2006 5-050582-471670
Miami Vice 2006 5-050582-475319
Miami Vice 2006 5-050582-477801
Miami Vice 2006 5-050582-443387
Miami Vice 2006 5-050582-443493
Miami Vice 2006 4-800627-034480
Miami Vice 2006 4-800627-034480
Miami Vice 2006 4-893031-029999
Miami Vice 2006 025192-802324
Miami Vice: HD DVD 2006 025193-003225
Miami Vice: HD DVD 2006 5-050582-467185
Miami Vice: Limited Edition 2006 5-050582-457223
Miami Vice: Unrated Director's Edition 2006 025193-326621
Miami Vice: Unrated Director's Edition 2006 025192-802324
Miami Vice: Unrated Director's Edition 2006 025193-003225
and Pasha D. Lynchnikoff should be checked in:
the series: Alias, Deadwood, FBI: Portés disparus: Saison 1, Without a Trace
Trade | | | | Sources for one or more of the changes and/or additions were not submitted. Please include the sources for your changes in the contribution notes, especially for cast and crew additions. | | | | Last edited: by ? |
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