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Tales from the Crypt
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DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorKathy
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Should the cast and crew that do the opening and closing sequences featuring The Crypt Keeper (this is on every episode) be credited?

On the DVD these cast and crew members are found in the end credits and are listed separately from the cast and crew that work on the story that appears between The Crypt Keeper segments.
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I would say yes Kathy, since The Crypt Keeper does appear in every episode of the series.
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I'd add them after the rest of the cast.
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I was actually considering doing something similar to that with the Masters of Horror profiles, as the series has it's own set of opening credits before we get the credits for the individual episode.
I was going to do something like:

Masters of Horror (divider)
crew
crew
crew
Episode Name (divider)
crew
crew
crew

I can't see why this wouldn't work or be disallowed in your situation too. The only snag I see with it is if you were to do this for every episode it could get messy. A tidier solution might be to do the "crypt keeper" credits once for each profile, then listing the episodes below - but this doesn't really follow the rules as rigidly as repeating them for each episode.
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Actually that would be against the rules... as the rules state not to list anyone outside the episode dividers...

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Enter Cast and Crew for each episode using standard rules, and insert dividers to separate each episode's credit list from the others. Do not list Cast and Crew outside of the dividers even if they are credited in all episodes.


So it is something I would vote no to.
Pete
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All the individual discs in the season sets have him listed in each episode (at least 2-6 do, don't have 7 yet).

Season 1 is just all cast/crew listed under the box, which is probably wrong when compared to the later seasons. In fact, I just looked and the discs aren't there under the disc ID at all. I'd add them to match the other seasons but don't have the real discs (long story). Kassir is listed in every episode on that too.
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I didn't do child profiles for season 1 because Season 1 was a really short season... all episodes on 1 disc and then a few extras on a second disc.
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Actually that would be against the rules... as the rules state not to list anyone outside that episode dividers...

You're right, but repeating the information for every episode is allowed, the only question is how best to format it.
For example:
Episode 1 Title Sequence
crew
crew
Episode 1
crew
crew
Episode 2 Title Sequence
crew
crew
Episode 2
crew
crew

or would you prefer something like:

Episode 1
Title Sequence
crew
crew
Episode
crew
crew
Episode 2
Title Sequence
crew
crew
Episode
crew
crew
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The way I read it that would be against the rules...

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Enter Cast and Crew for each episode using standard rules, and insert dividers to separate each episode's credit list from the others. Do not list Cast and Crew outside of the dividers even if they are credited in all episodes.


As it tells you to use the dividers to separate each episode's credits. So in my view it is telling you right there how to use the dividers.

besides... I see no reason to break it up like that... to me that looks a mess. That looks like using dividers for no real reason... just makes the whole thing look way to cluttered. I would not go any other way then what we been doing. A divider per episode only.

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I would just do it...

1. Episode Name
All Crew Listed

2. Episode Name
All Crew Listed

and so on
Pete
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The way I read it that would be against the rules...

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Enter Cast and Crew for each episode using standard rules, and insert dividers to separate each episode's credit list from the others. Do not list Cast and Crew outside of the dividers even if they are credited in all episodes.


As it tells you to use the dividers to separate each episode's credits. So in my view it is telling you right there how to use the dividers.

Yes it tells you to use dividers to separate episodes, but it says nothing about not being allowed to use dividers within the episode lists themselves. So you wouldn't be listing cast & crew outside the dividers, you'd be doing it inside the dividers.
The advantage I see to doing it this way is that you see who actually worked on the episode and who worked on the title sequence only - that's why I thought about doing it for Masters of Horror - you'd see who worked on each short film and who worked on the series separately.

Edit: but I have to say I haven't actually tried it yet. You're right, it may look a mess.
Although I did do something similar with a Blackadder box set where I used dividers:
Series One
Episode 1
cast
cast
Episode 2
cast etc....
Series Two
Episode 1
cast
etc....

and that looks fine in Profiler.
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that is where we part... when I read it saying how to use the dividers like that in a set of rules... I take it as the way listed is the only way they want it used within that section. not say use it this way... and oh any way we don't list is allowed as well. So to me what you are suggesting is not within the rules... which is how I would submit and vote... at least till Ken or Gerri told me differently.

since the opening credits is always listed first I already know that the first ones listed is from the opening credits... so do not need to be told that by a divider. Not to mention it is not something that I personally am concerned about who worked on every episode within the series/season... and who did work on the particular episode.
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This is how I read the rules:
The TV series rules say to use dividers to separate the episodes, so we have a divider.
The TV series rules say to follow standard rules for each episode list and the standard rules say to use dividers to separate cast & crew lists, so if there is more than one list for each episode (and in my opinion there is) then we are allowed to use a divider to show this.
So we would end up with:
EPISODE 1 DIVIDER
1ST CAST LIST
cast
cast
2ND CAST LIST
cast
cast
EPISODE 2 DIVIDER
1ST CAST LIST
you get the idea...

As far I can tell this follows the rules. It all depends on whether you class the credits for the title sequence as a separate list or only part of the whole episode list. To be honest, it's been so long since I've seen a Crypt episode I can't remember what they look like.
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I didn't do child profiles for season 1 because Season 1 was a really short season... all episodes on 1 disc and then a few extras on a second disc.


Oh yeah, makes sense. I retract my wrong comments above, but will leave them so your reply makes sense. 
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Quoting northbloke:
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This is how I read the rules:
The TV series rules say to use dividers to separate the episodes, so we have a divider.
The TV series rules say to follow standard rules for each episode list and the standard rules say to use dividers to separate cast & crew lists, so if there is more than one list for each episode (and in my opinion there is) then we are allowed to use a divider to show this.
So we would end up with:
EPISODE 1 DIVIDER
1ST CAST LIST
cast
cast
2ND CAST LIST
cast
cast
EPISODE 2 DIVIDER
1ST CAST LIST
you get the idea...

As far I can tell this follows the rules. It all depends on whether you class the credits for the title sequence as a separate list or only part of the whole episode list. To be honest, it's been so long since I've seen a Crypt episode I can't remember what they look like.


bold by me...
I definitely see the opening credits as part of the whole episode list... and feel confident that most people do since that is the way it has always been done between my contributions and the contributions I see on my up over 400 TV collection boxsets. This is the first I ever seen anyone mention separating the opening credits from the other credits.
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This is the first I ever seen anyone mention separating the opening credits from the other credits.

That's not what I'm talking about. Apologies if I've given that impression.
I'm talking about a situation like with Masters of Horror where you have a self-contained opening credit sequence for the series, you then get another set of completely separate opening and closing credit sequences for the actual film. I was under the impression that Tales from the Crypt was like this, but that could be my bad memory.
I would never separate the opening credits from the end credits if that's what you thought I meant.
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I was under the impression that Tales from the Crypt was like this, but that could be my bad memory.
I would never separate the opening credits from the end credits if that's what you thought I meant.


That was my impression as well regarding the Tales from the Crypt credits. I certainly wouldn't seperate them either.
Corey
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