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DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantZoeper
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Okay I have tried and searched but I'd like to change the locality of a disc I have.
Currently this title is in the database as a `United Kingdom` but this should be `Dutch`. I guess this came from the old 2.x database.

Can anyony help me to edit this title and change the locality?
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To change Locality you highlight the DVD in your list and then click on DVD -> Change Locality.  But I don't see "Dutch" available in there, so I assume you mean Netherlands?

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And you probably already know this, but just in case.. there is a distinction between the Locality of a DVD and the CoO (Country of Origin).  They are not the same thing and changing the Locality of a profile has a much bigger impact so you want to make sure you are right.  You're probably aware of that already, just wanted to cover the bases. 
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I think I'm missing something J-P?, as you can choose 'change locality' from the drop down menu in the programme
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The locality is the location the DVD is sold right. Just to make sure!?
The Country of Origin (as can be set on the edit page is as I asume the location where the movie is from)
In this case `A League of Their Own`. This was set to the UK, but the cover is completely in Dutch, so should the overview be.

@richierich I am unsure to what you mean by choose `change locality` from the dropdown in the program?
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Quoting JP_S:
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The locality is the location the DVD is sold right. Just to make sure!?
Yes

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The Country of Origin (as can be set on the edit page is as I asume the location where the movie is from)

Yes

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@richierich I am unsure to what you mean by choose `change locality` from the dropdown in the program?

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To change Locality you highlight the DVD in your list and then click on DVD -> Change Locality
Sources for one or more of the changes and/or additions were not submitted. Please include the sources for your changes in the contribution notes, especially for cast and crew additions.
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... ah duidelijk

or okay that's clear

thanks and `A League of Their Own` will be uploaded soon.
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Locality... That's a new thing for me, which I just discovered (by having one of my submissions rejected for "bad locality", even though I never changed it - it was bad from the start)

I have two questions about it :

1) How do you know about the locality? How can you tell?

so far the only clue (a pretty big one though) I could find is the... URL of the editor on the DVD case !

So, my "Friends saison 9" is something.fr, while the "saison 10" is something.be, so I guess it's France and Belgium.

but if that obvious hint is missing, where can that info be found ?

2) is locality part of the unique key to the profile?
I changed some of my "Friends" localities, from United Kingdom (?) to France, and submitted them, just stating I changed locality. But on the submission list, they appeared as a new profiles, or were treated as such - processed almost immediately, without vote, (and one turned down "Sources for one or more of the changes and/or additions were not submitted. etc.")

I never bothered for the locality of any of my DVDs, 95% of my collection has been directly obtained from Invelos database from the bar code...
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Example : UPC 8 712626 003304, Entrapment (Haute Voltige)

Cover is in NL / FR (Dutch / French) so it's probably a (Switzerland)/France/Belgium/Netherlands edition...

The Locality which is showing on my collection for that entry is France.

What is the correct locality ?
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In those situations, what happens is you use the locality you bought it in (as long as it's not an import). So you would create/use a French profile, a Swiss user would have a Swiss profile and so on. That way you can prioritise the information that's most relevant to your country without upsetting your neighbours!
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In those situations, what happens is you use the locality you bought it in


It's been ages since I last bought a DVD from the store... I shop online almost exclusively, and second hand too...

Where is Locality explained in the rules? I did not find it...

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So you would create/use a French profile, a Swiss user would have a Swiss profile and so on. That way you can prioritise the information that's most relevant to your country without upsetting your neighbours!

So the Locality is actually part of the "unique key"... Interesting.
Thanks
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1) How do you know about the locality? How can you tell?


The first thing that indicates the location is the language of the overview, and or copyright disclaimer. Scarcely you'll get a DVD with a French overview that's located in the UK or the other way round.

The second hint is the rating, this always has to be on the box according to the release countries laws.

Usually it is safe to assume that the country where you bought the DVD is the country that should be put into the locality field, provided it's not marked as "import". Because especially in the EC copyright laws may be violated by selling a DVD in a country for which it's not licensed.
It all seems so stupid, it makes me want to give up!
But why should I give up, when it all seems so stupid?


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To try and answer your earlier questions:

1) on a basic level, locality is simply the country in which the DVD is available for sale.

2) yes, the locality forms part of how a profile is defined. Each locality can only use a UPC/EAN or disc ID once. But the same UPC or disc ID can appear in any number of localities as long as the DVD is genuinely available for sale in that country.

Europe is one of the most complicated areas to work in, as many companies will issue the same DVD in different countries. In those situations each country can have it's own profile by having the same EAN but a different locality.
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Thanks... all is much clearer !

Back to my "Entrapment" DVD... it's cover, overview, feature list, chapter list... everything exists in French AND Dutch, so this DVD is most probably sold in Belgium, France and Netherlands. Should really 3 profiles be created for the exact same packaging ?
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Should really 3 profiles be created for the exact same packaging ?

Yes,
not that you should do it all alone but clearly a yes.
The same happens with German, Swiss and Austrian DVD's all the time. The same DVD with three localities, although sometimes the SRP and/or release date differs.
It all seems so stupid, it makes me want to give up!
But why should I give up, when it all seems so stupid?


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Yes,
not that you should do it all alone but clearly a yes.
The same happens with German, Swiss and Austrian DVD's all the time. The same DVD with three localities, although sometimes the SRP and/or release date differs.


same with alot of norwegian/swedish/danish/finnish releases
everything is identical and cover got overview/rating for all 4 countrys
on rare occations they even have 3/4 diff UPCs on the cover(1 for each locality)
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Thanks... all is much clearer !

Back to my "Entrapment" DVD... it's cover, overview, feature list, chapter list... everything exists in French AND Dutch, so this DVD is most probably sold in Belgium, France and Netherlands. Should really 3 profiles be created for the exact same packaging ?


If you would make them all 3 overview, notes, ...
The French location:  in French only
The Belgium location: in French and Dutch (same order as backcover of dvd)
The Netherlands location: in Dutch

normaly you would only make the profile from the location you did buy the dvd
Sources for one or more of the changes and/or additions were not submitted. Please include the sources for your changes in the contribution notes, especially for cast and crew additions.
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