Welcome to the Invelos forums. Please read the forum rules before posting.

Read access to our public forums is open to everyone. To post messages, a free registration is required.

If you have an Invelos account, sign in to post.

    Invelos Forums->DVD Profiler: Contribution Discussion Page: 1 2 3 4  Previous   Next
Parsing of Mary Jean McAdams
Author Message
DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorDaddy DVD
Lost in Translation
Registered: March 14, 2007
Netherlands Posts: 2,366
Posted:
PM this userDirect link to this postReply with quote
http://maryjeanbentley.com/bio.htm

Her first name is spelled as "MJ" on the following pages
(which I think means "Mary" and "Jean" together form a single "double barrelled" name):

http://maryjeanbentley.com/press.htm
http://maryjeanbentley.com/news.htm
http://maryjeanbentley.com/contact.htm
Martin Zuidervliet

DVD Profiler Nederlands
 Last edited: by Daddy DVD
DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorT!M
Profiling since Dec. 2000
Registered: March 13, 2007
Reputation: Highest Rating
Netherlands Posts: 8,736
Posted:
PM this userDirect link to this postReply with quote
And please, do NOT ask: "Shouldn't it be Mary Jean Bentley?" 
 Last edited: by T!M
DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantWhite Pongo, Jr.
No, I iz no Cheshire Cat!
Registered: August 22, 2007
Reputation: High Rating
Posts: 1,807
Posted:
PM this userDirect link to this postReply with quote
Maybe of interest a list of baby double names.

EDIT: In that list there is "Mary Jane" and other compound names with "Jean", not "Mary Jean" though .
But you can find "Mary Jean" in this message board on babies.
-- Enry
 Last edited: by White Pongo, Jr.
DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorDaddy DVD
Lost in Translation
Registered: March 14, 2007
Netherlands Posts: 2,366
Posted:
PM this userDirect link to this postReply with quote
Quoting EnryWiki:
Quote:
Maybe of interest a list of baby double names (including Mary Jane).

I see a lot of names ending with Jean, but not Mary. But I do not think it does not exist:
http://malaysia.answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20080121163234AA0ccp3
Martin Zuidervliet

DVD Profiler Nederlands
 Last edited: by Daddy DVD
DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorWinston Smith
Don't be discommodious
Registered: March 13, 2007
United States Posts: 21,610
Posted:
PM this userEmail this userView this user's DVD collectionDirect link to this postReply with quote
Martin:

If I might ask, why is this a question. Mary/Jean/ McAdams, unless you can document something else. Simple and does not waste time and energy. I did not llok at your "proof'. Mary Jean CAN be a double first but it is not automatic, it can be a a middle as well. So just document include the doc in your notes and go with whatever the answer is.

I assume Mary Jane Bentley has something to do with McAdams, as i said i did not look. This stuff is all soooo simple. I don't get what the problem is. I don't understand why everything is so difficult for everyone, and iyt has to polled and discussed repetitiverly forever. This is easy, quit over thinking.

Skip
ASSUME NOTHING!!!!!!
CBE, MBE, MoA and proud of it.
Outta here

Billy Video
 Last edited: by Winston Smith
DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorDaddy DVD
Lost in Translation
Registered: March 14, 2007
Netherlands Posts: 2,366
Posted:
PM this userDirect link to this postReply with quote
Quoting skipnet50:
Quote:
If I might ask, why is this a question.

This is a question because I think "MJ" stands for "Mary-Jean", which means both names belong in the first name field, and I want to know how many of you agree with me on this.
Martin Zuidervliet

DVD Profiler Nederlands
 Last edited: by Daddy DVD
DVD Profiler Unlimited Registrantjmbox
Registered: April 14, 2007
United Kingdom Posts: 415
Posted:
PM this userVisit this user's homepageView this user's DVD collectionDirect link to this postReply with quote
Credit Lookup has 33 profiles with Mary/Jean/McAdams and 2 with Mary Jean//McAdams.
DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar Contributornorthbloke
Registered: March 15, 2007
Reputation: High Rating
United Kingdom Posts: 5,459
Posted:
PM this userDirect link to this postReply with quote
Martin, I did look at your links, and yes MJ does stand for Mary Jean.
The constant use of MJ or Mary Jean on her official site does certainly suggest to me that she has a double-barrelled first name, so I would personally parse her name that way.
 Last edited: by northbloke
DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorDaddy DVD
Lost in Translation
Registered: March 14, 2007
Netherlands Posts: 2,366
Posted:
PM this userDirect link to this postReply with quote
Quoting jmbox:
Quote:
Credit Lookup has 33 profiles with Mary/Jean/McAdams and 2 with Mary Jean//McAdams.

Yeah so? That does not mean "Mary/Jean/McAdams" is correct.
Martin Zuidervliet

DVD Profiler Nederlands
DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorDaddy DVD
Lost in Translation
Registered: March 14, 2007
Netherlands Posts: 2,366
Posted:
PM this userDirect link to this postReply with quote
Quoting northbloke:
Quote:
Martin, I did look at your links, and yes MJ does stand for Mary Jean.
The constant use of MJ or Mary Jean on her official site does certainly suggest to me that she has a double-barrelled first name, so I would personally parse her name that way.

Thank you.
Martin Zuidervliet

DVD Profiler Nederlands
DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantWhite Pongo, Jr.
No, I iz no Cheshire Cat!
Registered: August 22, 2007
Reputation: High Rating
Posts: 1,807
Posted:
PM this userDirect link to this postReply with quote
Quoting northbloke:
Quote:
Martin, I did look at your links, and yes MJ does stand for Mary Jean.
The constant use of MJ or Mary Jean on her official site does certainly suggest to me that she has a double-barrelled first name, so I would personally parse her name that way.


Agree.

jmbox:
The Credit Lookup tool is a proof to  show most commonly credited names in DVDP profiles and thus (supposedly) in film credits.  BUT I daresay it proves nothing about the correct parsing. Generally speaking, parsing is not taken from the credits (well, maybe in a few occurrences) but from any available documentation.

skip:
Martin brought some proof of usage as double first name in Mary Jean // McAdams. It's not a birth certificate, but it's some evidence. Besides, there is no definitive proof it's a Middle name either.
-- Enry
 Last edited: by White Pongo, Jr.
DVD Profiler Unlimited Registrantjmbox
Registered: April 14, 2007
United Kingdom Posts: 415
Posted:
PM this userVisit this user's homepageView this user's DVD collectionDirect link to this postReply with quote
I'm not saying it was proof of the correct parsing, but majority rules for the common name.

There could be 100 profiles with Mary Jean/Mc/Adams and that would be the common name to use.

It's a lot less work to convert the smaller number of profiles to the larger than the other way around.
DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar Contributornorthbloke
Registered: March 15, 2007
Reputation: High Rating
United Kingdom Posts: 5,459
Posted:
PM this userDirect link to this postReply with quote
Quoting jmbox:
Quote:
I'm not saying it was proof of the correct parsing, but majority rules for the common name.

There could be 100 profiles with Mary Jean/Mc/Adams and that would be the common name to use.

It's a lot less work to convert the smaller number of profiles to the larger than the other way around.


Not quite, majority rules for the common name unless the majority can be shown to be inaccurate.
In this case Martin has brought forward documentation that suggests Mary Jean//McAdams is the correct parsing, and if this is considered "good enough" then it would override the results of the Lookup tool, regardless of how much extra work it would involve.
DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorDaddy DVD
Lost in Translation
Registered: March 14, 2007
Netherlands Posts: 2,366
Posted:
PM this userDirect link to this postReply with quote
Quoting jmbox:
Quote:
I'm not saying it was proof of the correct parsing, but majority rules for the common name.

There could be 100 profiles with Mary Jean/Mc/Adams and that would be the common name to use.

It's a lot less work to convert the smaller number of profiles to the larger than the other way around.

No, a common name is the name of which a person is most credited as. And if the number of wrongly parsed names is bigger than correctly, it does not mean we should consider not to change that.
Martin Zuidervliet

DVD Profiler Nederlands
 Last edited: by Daddy DVD
DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorSoylentDave
SoylentDave is people!
Registered: March 13, 2007
Reputation: Great Rating
United States Posts: 499
Posted:
PM this userEmail this userView this user's DVD collectionDirect link to this postReply with quote
Going by just the first line on her bio page,
Quote:
At Seventeen, Mary Jean signed with a modeling agency in Washington DC.

I would be tempted to go with the compound first name.
I don't wanna be like everyone else, that's why I'm a mod, see?
DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar Contributorreybr
Registered: March 13, 2007
Reputation: High Rating
Norway Posts: 906
Posted:
PM this userView this user's DVD collectionDirect link to this postReply with quote
Sorry, but I can't understand why we should complicate this. So what if she uses "Mary Jean" and not just Mary. What do we gain by moving Jean to the same field as Mary? I can't understand it. Moving Jean to the first name field will also make it more difficult to get correct linking.

I'm sure the majority of the people that contribute (except some here in these forums) sees three names and puts one name in each field.

Why do we have to make everything so complicated?

The colour of her eyes, were the colour of insanity
    Invelos Forums->DVD Profiler: Contribution Discussion Page: 1 2 3 4  Previous   Next