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Am I missing something here?

Nope, you are correct. The bolded titles/UPC's you've listed should not have any cast/crew data in them (or much of anything else really).  They should follow the boxset rules for those.

Doesn't the second disc constitute as "bonus material"?

Quoting DJ Doena:

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Doesn't the second disc constitute as "bonus material"?

Actually.. hmm.  You have a point here.  The first is fine because the 2nd item in there has it's own UPC so would qualify for the box set rules.  But the other 2 are only by Disc ID and they are strictly bonus materials. The catch is that they are not part of the packaged and UPCed main titles (794043-650420 and 794043-693229).  So the question is do they get profiled on their own or should they have just been added to the Special Features listing of the main profiles (the original bolded ones).  The problem is that the original bolded entry has it's own UPC code and then inside of that box is another UPCed package that is also sold by itself.  So really, there doesn't seem to be any other way to profile this except by doing it like a box set, but since they don't technically meet the "more than one film" then... what?

Maybe this is this one of those crazy exceptions where we should just be looking the other way.. 

So the first one is a box set, but the second two aren't?

The rules state: The term "Box Set" is used to define any release that includes more than one film. The main examples are:

    * Sets where each film is packaged individually, and held together in a package of some kind.
    * Sets where each film is on a separate disc, but not individually packaged. This includes gatefold Digipaks and 2-Disc sets in normal DVD cases.
    * Sets containing 2 films, one on each side of Dual-Sided DVD.

What constitutes a film?  I would argue that since the Gollum feature and the Howard Shore feature are both packaged separately, they count as "films" that  are "packaged individually, and held together in a package of some kind."

/Ain't I a stinker?

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We had this discusison more times than I care to count over at the old site. Nothing has changed since then when it was determined that they were "box sets".

Actually, I seem to remember a different outcome to the debate. I believe they were considered not to be box sets, but that the extra DVD (NG, Dollum, Symphony) that came with was a bonus disc and that the gift set profile should contain the data for the film.

Because the Bonus Disc was in its own package and could get its own profile, and because the film itself was released individually in a case with its own UPC, it had its own profile, and so people who wanted to make a box set out of it could.

But don't confuse that with the outcome of the debate, which was that it was just a custom packaged gift set and not a box set.

I don't really care which way it is in the database since I have mine set up as a box set, but that's the way I remember the discussion going.

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You are correvt.

A "film" can be a 20 minute documentary.

Yes it can, I have no argument there
What is strange though, is that the two disc set for From Dusk Till Dawn aren't considered as a Box Set since the second disc is just one documentary, Full Tilt Boogie (which also got theatrical release. 108 minutes long). Back on the old site it was decided against that this two disc set was  a box set

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Since all three sets contain the movie and a bonus festure disc in their own packaging, they constute as a Box Set per the Box set rules.

Unfortunatelly, the rules doesn't mention the packaging at all in regards to it being a box set or not. I agree with you, on it being a box set, but the rules doesn't support it

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We had this discusison more times than I care to count over at the old site. Nothing has changed since then when it was determined that they were "box sets".

I never saw a decision on that. I remember the discussions but thought the decision went to other way. I might remember wrong though

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Also, just as the Inidiana Jones set, since the "bonus" content is in its own packaging (case) it qualifies as getting a profile.

That is irrelevant in this discussion. It gets it's a profile because of this little thing from the rules:
If there is a disc of Bonus Material for all films included in the Box-set, create a separate profile for this disc.
As you see, it has nothing to do with the packaging


As I said, personally I have it set up as a box set locally, but I don't see anything in the rules that support it being a box set based on the packaging. The best thing, in my opinion, would be to allow the data there for those that want it and remove it locally if you don't want it

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Quoting pplchamp:

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You are correvt.

A "film" can be a 20 minute documentary.

Yes it can, I have no argument there
What is strange though, is that the two disc set for From Dusk Till Dawn aren't considered as a Box Set since the second disc is just one documentary, Full Tilt Boogie (which also got theatrical release. 108 minutes long). Back on the old site it was decided against that this two disc set was  a box set

Hey, I can certainly agree with that. From Dusk Till Dawn should be treated as a box set in that case.

if it has a wet nose, waggy tail and woofs then its a dog.

Looks like a boxset to me.