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What kind of users they are, A negative point just for voting NO, to a complete wrong contribution. Whoa!!!! Please give me some other by this way it would be over and finish thank you very much. I’m really  think that some have not a place over here. Where are the right of voting, this starting to get out of hand.
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DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorWinston Smith
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I saw this coming, Jean and I have voiced it myself, I have seem some bizarre Negatives, including some which are simply because I expressed my OPINION in very strong and non-negotiable terms.   I woul some further thoughts but that would guarantee a Negative vote. In short this is becoming utter nonsense.

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We're told that spurious "no" votes will be removed.  I don't have firsthand knowledge of this but I've read others saying that was their experience.  Presumably, if it isn't removed, the powers-that-be have deemed it not to be spurious.
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Ken has assured us he is monitoring the system for abuse. I believe him. As has been pointed out though there are many votes that seem out of line to most but are left as is. The one negative vote I received I felt was unwarranted, but wouldn't most of us think that of what we say? That's what the system is there for. To point out posts that are offensive in some way to someone else. Who really posts with intent to be hurtful or offensive?   

If the negative vote stands (give it time to be reviewed by Invelos) then someone felt it was warranted. One errant vote won't ruin your reputation though, something to keep in mind.

Like any system this one will need time to get the bugs worked out. Give it a few more weeks and then let's see where we are at. So far I think it has helped.
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I saw this coming, Jean and I have voiced it myself, I have seem some bizarre Negatives, including some which are simply because I expressed my OPINION in very strong and non-negotiable terms.   I woul some further thoughts but that would guarantee a Negative vote. In short this is becoming utter nonsense.

Skip


Yes skip that's right, And I will give you a positive point for your answer. Of course this are coming a nonsence, that's the door open to any kind of people who's dont like your opinion, your contribution, etc... for me that's meant just that we must shut up and that's all. 
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I'ts not a good idea to enable votes on contribution notes! Let's be honest: We say: My No-Vote is not personally, but we can't avoid revenge votings due to mortally offended contributors! 

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IMHO the reputation system has many room for improvement!
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I , would like to ask you What's are improper to my reputation with this ?

"No, Bad cover, French Overview all ready exist, Wy not just added Netherland overview,  as see on the back cover I Think it's  simple! Rating?,Etc.? ?"

I dont writte more since there where no place enough.
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I , would like to ask you What's are improper to my reputation with this ?

"No, Bad cover, French Overview all ready exist, Wy not just added Netherland overview,  as see on the back cover I Think it's  simple! Rating?,Etc.? ?"

I dont writte more since there where no place enough.


IMHO no reason to worry!
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I saw this coming, Jean and I have voiced it myself, I have seem some bizarre Negatives, including some which are simply because I expressed my OPINION in very strong and non-negotiable terms.   I woul some further thoughts but that would guarantee a Negative vote. In short this is becoming utter nonsense.

Skip

Now, I have absolutely no idea what you said or how you said it, but why express your opinion in a "very strong and non-negiotable" way? Was it impossible to get the same point across without using "very strong" wording?

I'm not saying you should compromise your position or your point of view, but is it really a bad thing to make an effort at expressing yourself as non-combatively* as possible?

Like I said, I don't know what was said, just responding to you calling your wording "very strong and non-negiotable" - which conjures up a certain type of posting style in my head.

KM

*I don't know if "non-combatively" is a word, but I think you get my point.
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I , would like to ask you What's are improper to my reputation with this ?

"No, Bad cover, French Overview all ready exist, Wy not just added Netherland overview,  as see on the back cover I Think it's  simple! Rating?,Etc.? ?"

I dont writte more since there where no place enough.

I would never have given you bad feedback based on that "no" vote comment. BUT... I think the culprit may be the "I think it's simple!" part of your note. It comes across in a "What are you? Stupid?" kind of way.

Like I said, I wouldn't have given you bad feedback, but I suspect that line is what caused someone to do so.

KM
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IMHO no reason to worry!


That's right , but in my mind the reputation where based to an objective  sbuject , if your are insulting someone, or are improper with your language but not to a vote , with reason ! The vote are here to complete a corect database, but not a play with button yes or no about the reputation of someone, This could be destruct, a friendship with peoples. Sometime I am in disagrement with someone, But never, I told never, I will giving a negative point of her reputation.

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Now, I have absolutely no idea what you said or how you said it, but why express your opinion in a "very strong and non-negiotable" way? Was it impossible to get the same point across without using "very strong" wording?

I'm not saying you should compromise your position or your point of view, but is it really a bad thing to make an effort at expressing yourself as non-combatively* as possible?

Like I said, I don't know what was said, just responding to you calling your wording "very strong and non-negiotable" - which conjures up a certain type of posting style in my head.

KM

*I don't know if "non-combatively" is a word, but I think you get my point.


It isn't just the way people express their opinions...sometimes even the opinion should get a negative vote.  For example, in another thread, a user was accused of deliberately twisting and undermining the rules.  While that may have been the posters 'opinion', it could still be seen as an attack.

Throwing out insults, and claiming that they are 'just my opinion', doesn't make them any less insulting.  Oddly enough, JMHO. 
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I , would like to ask you What's are improper to my reputation with this ?

"No, Bad cover, French Overview all ready exist, Wy not just added Netherland overview,  as see on the back cover I Think it's  simple! Rating?,Etc.? ?"

I dont writte more since there where no place enough.

I would never have given you bad feedback based on that "no" vote comment. BUT... I think the culprit may be the "I think it's simple!" part of your note. It comes across in a "What are you? Stupid?" kind of way.

Like I said, I wouldn't have given you bad feedback, but I suspect that line is what caused someone to do so.

KM


I'm really think , if someone are not agree with The vote , and I will used the same word again i'ts simple to writte him with PM, and ask him an explanation about "it's simple". That's just meant in our Country " Wy you dont do it " and that's all, I dont think that's are inconvenant. I paid the right to give my point of view on this forum and i'm used, even if my english are very bad. But I will stay Polite. that's what i'm thinking about my reputation.
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DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorWinston Smith
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I saw this coming, Jean and I have voiced it myself, I have seem some bizarre Negatives, including some which are simply because I expressed my OPINION in very strong and non-negotiable terms.   I woul some further thoughts but that would guarantee a Negative vote. In short this is becoming utter nonsense.

Skip

Now, I have absolutely no idea what you said or how you said it, but why express your opinion in a "very strong and non-negiotable" way? Was it impossible to get the same point across without using "very strong" wording?

I'm not saying you should compromise your position or your point of view, but is it really a bad thing to make an effort at expressing yourself as non-combatively* as possible?

Like I said, I don't know what was said, just responding to you calling your wording "very strong and non-negiotable" - which conjures up a certain type of posting style in my head.

KM

*I don't know if "non-combatively" is a word, but I think you get my point.


Very strong and non-negotiable is only used in certain instance, Astrakan. Suh as when a user either doesn't understand or refuses to understand...in which case one user put it correctly agree to disagree.

Skip
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I reviewed this earlier today.  Although questionable, in this particular case the same user gave a negative vote and a positive vote to the same user, possibly just trying the system out, so I let both stand.

As we've said, we are monitoring these.
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I reviewed this earlier today.  Although questionable, in this particular case the same user gave a negative vote and a positive vote to the same user, possibly just trying the system out, so I let both stand.

As we've said, we are monitoring these.


Thank you Ken for jumping in and giving us an update. Glad to see you are monitoring it as you said you would (not that I doubted you  ) (... uh-oh...  )




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