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DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantWhite Pongo, Jr.
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Q.1) Episode list:
On screen, in the DVD menu, episode names are "8AM-9AM", "9AM-10AM" and so on, but in the booklet it is "12:00 P.M. - 1:00 P.M.", etc. What format would you use in the Episode list?

Q.2) Season identifier:
The "24" Seasons 1-3 box set shows on the front cover:

Season One
  -----
Season Two
  -----
Season Three

What would the Season identifier be?
My take is: "Season One, Season Two, Season Three".


Q.3.1) Box set and discs

AFAIU, according to the Rules the said box-set should be treated as a box set ("multiple Complete TV Series are packaged together"), and indeed box set contents have been added to the said profile.
Thus, Disc IDs should be deleted in the "Edit Profile" - "Discs" window of the main profile, right?

Quoting Box set rules:
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Do not include any Disc IDs on the main profile - these are listed on each of the individual profiles.


Q.3.2) Box set and child profiles
What child profiles should be added to Box Set Contents?
The said box set has a UPC number (5-039036-017770 , UK) on the case, no UPC on the three digipaks (one for each season).
The Disc IDs are used for individual discs in the online database.
-- Enry
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The Disc IDs are used for individual discs in the online database.
I was told that the usage of the Disc Id for a season pack overrules the usage for the given disc.

But I think if you change this, you'll be voted down.
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The Disc IDs are used for individual discs in the online database.
I was told that the usage of the Disc Id for a season pack overrules the usage for the given disc.

But I think if you change this, you'll be voted down.


On the other hand, I can't create new profiles for each season in the box set, using the disc ID of the first disc in each season, because they would be duplicate entries and the program wouldn't let me.
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On the other hand, I can't create new profiles for each season in the box set, using the disc ID of the first disc in each season, because they would be duplicate entries and the program wouldn't let me.
Yep, that's the catch.

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Karsten's right, best we can do for now is create a manual profile for each individual season and attach the child profiles to that.
Hopefully we'll have a better solution soon.
As to your other questions:
1. I would go with whatever matches with what shows up on screen (they show the times at the start don't they?)
2. your idea looks fine to me
3.1. this is a complicated one as it all depends on how the child profiles are arranged. I would say the main profile has 3 child profiles (one for each season) and no disc IDs. Each child profile would then have disc-level child profiles and disc IDs (as both are allowed)
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Karsten's right, best we can do for now is create a manual profile for each individual season and attach the child profiles to that.

Actually, since the season profiles are mandatory and the disc level profiles are optional, I would tend to give the season profiles priority over the disc profiles to use the disc id as their profile id.
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True RHo,
but I get the impression that the child profiles already exist on the disc ID, and I'm loathe to condone the removal of all that data.
Had these been new submissions, of course it would be done the other way, as you say.
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True RHo,
but I get the impression that the child profiles already exist on the disc ID,


Yessir, they do already exist.


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and I'm loathe to condone the removal of all that data.


Besides, removal would leave all the other discs without the first disc in each set. Pretty weird.
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I, too, have now the same problem. Today I got the complete collection of Buffy. The season packages have no UPC but the first disc is already entered as the first disc, not as the season profile. :-/
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I'll run into this problem in a few days with the german complete "Alias". I thought about going to a different location which sells the same DVDs. If the same Box is sold in Switzerland as well (for Germany) we could use profiles from that location.
For the UK Boxes: If they're identical with those sold in Ireland, you could use that location.
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Quoting EnryWiki:
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Quoting northbloke:
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True RHo,
but I get the impression that the child profiles already exist on the disc ID,


Yessir, they do already exist.


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and I'm loathe to condone the removal of all that data.


Besides, removal would leave all the other discs without the first disc in each set. Pretty weird.


Is that was has happened to the first disc of alias season 5 from the us? cant find disc one on disc id or search trough titles anyone know where its gone too?
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If that had happened, the profile would still exist, it would just be pretty much empty.
It sounds more likely that for some reason or another it simply never got submitted with the rest.
If all the other profiles were created by the same person, you could maybe PM them and ask them nicely if they forgot to add this one.
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2. your idea looks fine to me


Actually I tried to contribute that change (among others)

from
24
to
24: Season One, Season Two, Season Three

just before opening this thread, but I got a No vote saying among other things "Title format is wrong,"


I PMed the no voter but got no reply yet.


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3.1. this is a complicated one as it all depends on how the child profiles are arranged. I would say the main profile has 3 child profiles (one for each season) and no disc IDs.


Now the main profile has 3 child profiles but actually they are disc-level profiles (the first disc in each season). The main profile has disc IDs too.
What would you do?
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Without hearing back from the no voter, it's impossible to know what they think the title format should be.
The only other way I can think of to format it is to use a slash instead of a comma:
24: Season One / Season Two / Season Three

I don't know if that would be more agreeable to the majority.

As for the disc IDs, if you're looking at it from a contribution point of view, leave it as it is. As it stands we can't profile these boxsets properly yet, so it's not worth trying.

But from your collection point of view, I personally would create 3 manual profiles for each season to replace those 3 disc ID profiles, then add all the disc ID profiles for each season to each manual profile.
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is this the box in question?

http://www.amazon.co.uk/24-1-3-Kiefer-Sutherland/dp/B00029QXAU/ref=sr_1_8?ie=UTF8&s=dvd&qid=1196181219&sr=1-8

the title you used wasent that big a stretch, but what is the words on the top of the front? collectors something?
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is this the box in question?

http://www.amazon.co.uk/24-1-3-Kiefer-Sutherland/dp/B00029QXAU/ref=sr_1_8?ie=UTF8&s=dvd&qid=1196181219&sr=1-8

the title you used wasent that big a stretch, but what is the words on the top of the front? collectors something?


Yep, and it is already in the Edition field (Collector's DVD Boxset). But I didn't change anything in the Edition field, I only added the Season indicator to the Title.
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