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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation:  |  Posts: 6,635 |
| | Posted: | | | | Given the new Rule "Use the title from the DVD's front cover", what titles should be in the on-line database for the child profiles of the movies contained in the Alien Quadrilogy boxset? The "DVD front cover" does not include the titles 'Alien', or 'Aliens', or 'Alien3' or 'Alien Resurrection'. Since we are to slavishly follow the "Rule" come hell or high water, don't we need to change the titles of all of these movies to 'Alien Quadrilogy'. I see no allowance for changing them to their 'real' titles!!!!  | | | | Hal |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 6,635 |
| | Posted: | | | | 'Battlestar Galactica: The Complete Epic Series' has no title on the front cover.
I guess I'll submit a change to remove the title for this profile entirely! | | | | Hal |
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| Registered: March 14, 2007 | | Posts: 1,777 |
| | Posted: | | | | Traditionally, when child profiles have no name, we assign the name of the movie(s) to them. That would cover the Alien Quadrilogy question. That's my story and I'm sticking to it.  |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 6,635 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting mdnitoil: Quote:
Traditionally, when child profiles have no name, we assign the name of the movie(s) to them. That would cover the Alien Quadrilogy question. That's my story and I'm sticking to it. Gee, you mean we use common sense! Heresy! The Boxset Rules say nothing about taking the title from the "movies" for the child profiles! Add The Godfather DVD Collection to Alien Quadrilogy! | | | | Hal | | | | Last edited: by hal9g |
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| Registered: March 15, 2007 | | Posts: 445 |
| | Posted: | | | | Since there is nothing on the front cover did you think to look at the back cover or the spine? Or just submit them as blank...that would be better.  |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 6,635 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Bodi: Quote:
Since there is nothing on the front cover did you think to look at the back cover or the spine? Or just submit them as blank...that would be better. Let me spell it out clearly for you since my sarcasm is apparently not getting through. The "Rules" fanatics are holding everyone's feet to the fire that the Star Wars titles must not have the word Episode in them because the word Episode does not appear ON THE FRONT COVER as is defined in the the new Title Rule: "Use the title from the front cover." If you cannot insert the word "Episode" because it's not on the front cover, how the hell can you enter 'Battlestar Gallactica: The Complete Epic' when it does not appear ON THE FRONT COVER as stated in the new Rule. "Episode" appears on the back covers of the Star Wars DVDs. So What? | | | | Hal |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation:  | | Posts: 13,202 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting hal9g: Quote:
The "Rules" fanatics are holding everyone's feet to the fire that the Star Wars titles must not have the word Episode in them because the word Episode does not appear ON THE FRONT COVER as is defined in the the new Title Rule: "Use the title from the front cover."
If you cannot insert the word "Episode" because it's not on the front cover, how the hell can you enter 'Battlestar Gallactica: The Complete Epic' when it does not appear ON THE FRONT COVER as stated in the new Rule. It appears on my front cover and the front cover that is in the main db:  As to the rest, I honestly expected better from you. I will now lower my expectations.  | | | No dictator, no invader can hold an imprisoned population by force of arms forever.
There is no greater power in the universe than the need for freedom.
Against this power, governments and tyrants and armies cannot stand.
The Centauri learned this lesson once.
We will teach it to them again.
Though it take a thousand years, we will be free.
- Citizen G'Kar |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 21,610 |
| | Posted: | | | | I was waiting for that, Hal. It is clear that you went looking for trouble. However, this is a conundrum and in my opinion, as much as I loath them, Ken should allow an exception in the event there is no title on the Front Cover. I would say look at the spine FIRST and if this does not yield any information then look to the Back Cover. This does not change the existing Rule, and allows for the rarity that you have outlined.
In short, hal, while I don't object to your looking to cause trouble, nor am I surprised by it. If you are going to do so, do it with a solution possibility. You have NOT once mentioned how it might be dealt with. Is it a problem, yes, is it outside of the Rules that currently exist, yes, absolutely, so what can be done about it.
So, what are the possibilities. I see three choices the first two I reject for reasons I have al;ready spelled out.
1) Return to the Old Rule-Not acceptable
2) Use some totally new Rule-Not Acceptable
3) Come up with a solution that will operate within the confines of the current Rule.-I have spelled out what I believe to be the optimum choice, though there might be some discussion based on Back FIRST then Spine.
Skip | | | ASSUME NOTHING!!!!!!
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 6,635 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Unicus69: Quote:
Quoting hal9g:
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The "Rules" fanatics are holding everyone's feet to the fire that the Star Wars titles must not have the word Episode in them because the word Episode does not appear ON THE FRONT COVER as is defined in the the new Title Rule: "Use the title from the front cover."
If you cannot insert the word "Episode" because it's not on the front cover, how the hell can you enter 'Battlestar Gallactica: The Complete Epic' when it does not appear ON THE FRONT COVER as stated in the new Rule.
It appears on my front cover and the front cover that is in the main db:
As to the rest, I honestly expected better from you. I will now lower my expectations. Well, that's very interesting. I've got mine sitting directly in front of me and it looks completely different. I bought it on the release date:  Please explain how you can justify placing titles on the child profiles of 'The Godfather DVD Collection' by following the current Rules. | | | | Hal | | | | Last edited: by hal9g |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 21,610 |
| | Posted: | | | | I have outlined an option, Hal. If you have me on ignore, meaning you can't see my post, that simply outlines the childishness of those that engage in this behavior. You can't address what you can't see, but you can cause trouble from behind the wall, OR pretend to.
While it is a problem it is easily resolved.
Skip | | | ASSUME NOTHING!!!!!!
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 13,202 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting hal9g: Quote:
Well, that's very interesting. I've got mine sitting directly in front of me and it looks completely different. I bought it on the release date: I can't get your image to show up but it seems fairly obvious, at least to me, that multiple versions were released. Mine matches the one in the online db. Quote:
Please explain how you can justify placing titles on the cild profiles of 'The Godfather DVD Collection' by following the current Rules. I can justify it because the rules do not mention DVDs without a title on the case. As with any other area not covered by the rules, we use some common sense...until Ken comes up with a fix. For the record, Skip's suggestion is quite workable. | | | No dictator, no invader can hold an imprisoned population by force of arms forever.
There is no greater power in the universe than the need for freedom.
Against this power, governments and tyrants and armies cannot stand.
The Centauri learned this lesson once.
We will teach it to them again.
Though it take a thousand years, we will be free.
- Citizen G'Kar | | | | Last edited: by TheMadMartian |
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| Registered: March 14, 2007 | | Posts: 1,777 |
| | Posted: | | | | Using alternate parts of the packaging won't work for sets that don't have individual child packaging. I'm thinking digipaks here. Multi-movie sets with only the parent packaging. Of course the method we currently employ works just fine for me, but for any anal-retentive folks out there, it's not technically spelled out in the rules....since we are talking about getting rules so detailed that a trained chimp can follow them.  |
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| Registered: March 15, 2007 | | Posts: 445 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting hal9g: Quote:
Quoting Bodi:
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Since there is nothing on the front cover did you think to look at the back cover or the spine? Or just submit them as blank...that would be better.
Let me spell it out clearly for you since my sarcasm is apparently not getting through.
The "Rules" fanatics are holding everyone's feet to the fire that the Star Wars titles must not have the word Episode in them because the word Episode does not appear ON THE FRONT COVER as is defined in the the new Title Rule: "Use the title from the front cover."
If you cannot insert the word "Episode" because it's not on the front cover, how the hell can you enter 'Battlestar Gallactica: The Complete Epic' when it does not appear ON THE FRONT COVER as stated in the new Rule.
"Episode" appears on the back covers of the Star Wars DVDs. So What? If nothing is on the front cover then go to spine then go to back cover or something of that nature...don't worry the rule will be amended I'm sure and you haven't discovered some unsurpassable obsticle to the rules...keep looking though. |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 21,610 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting mdnitoil: Quote:
Using alternate parts of the packaging won't work for sets that don't have individual child packaging. I'm thinking digipaks here. Multi-movie sets with only the parent packaging. Of course the method we currently employ works just fine for me, but for any anal-retentive folks out there, it's not technically spelled out in the rules....since we are talking about getting rules so detailed that a trained chimp can follow them. Valid comment, Bodi. I am working on one right now and I am surprised that what you said hadn't crossed my mind. So it would seem that one other exception would apply, in such instances we would be forced to use the title information provided by the Disc. Skip | | | ASSUME NOTHING!!!!!!
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| Registered: March 14, 2007 | | Posts: 1,777 |
| | Posted: | | | | Bodi thanks you for my valid comment.  |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 6,635 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting skipnet50: Quote:
I have outlined an option, Hal. If you have me on ignore, meaning you can't see my post, that simply outlines the childishness of those that engage in this behavior. You can't address what you can't see, but you can cause trouble from behind the wall, OR pretend to.
While it is a problem it is easily resolved.
Skip I don't respond to you immediately and what does that cause Skip to do? Insult! I do not have you on ignore, but it is crap like this that sometimes makes me wish I did. Talk about childish. Call it trouble making if you like. I did not ask you or Unicus how it could be solved by re-writing the Rule. Any idiot can figure that one out. I asked how it can be handled today as the Rule is currently written and is simply an example to illustrate that the consequences of changing this Rule were not thought all the way through, even if it did take two years after Ken initially mentioned it. | | | | Hal |
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