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I'm sorry, your contribution privilege has been removed!
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DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar Contributorwhispering
On ne passe pas!
Registered: March 13, 2007
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Should a person that constantly and knowingly violates the rules, see that message when he tryes to make a contribution?
DVD Profiler Desktop and Mobile RegistrantDr. Killpatient
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Registered: May 19, 2007
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I was pretty tempted to vote for the beer....
DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorRHo
Registered: March 13, 2007
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Knowingly to who? I guess that when Ken agrees that somebody is constantly and knowingly violating the rules and that no other measure has helped, he would remove the contribution privilege of that somebody.
DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorWinston Smith
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Registered: March 13, 2007
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Why is this OUR business, This belongs to ken, and I don't sse that we have the right to try and tell him what to do with his Program.

Skip
ASSUME NOTHING!!!!!!
CBE, MBE, MoA and proud of it.
Outta here

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DVD Profiler Desktop and Mobile RegistrantStar ContributorTheMadMartian
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Registered: March 13, 2007
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My tongue is bleeding.  Please stop. 
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There is no greater power in the universe than the need for freedom.
Against this power, governments and tyrants and armies cannot stand.
The Centauri learned this lesson once.
We will teach it to them again.
Though it take a thousand years, we will be free.
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DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorLopek
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Registered: March 13, 2007
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This is for Ken/Gerri to decide, and nothing to do with the community imo. I'll take the Beer thanks. 
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DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar Contributorwhispering
On ne passe pas!
Registered: March 13, 2007
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Quoting RHo:
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Knowingly to who? I guess that when Ken agrees that somebody is constantly and knowingly violating the rules and that no other measure has helped, he would remove the contribution privilege of that somebody.


Yes, to Ken. Question was, what do you, as a customer, user and contributor feel is just.

Quoting skipnet50:
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Why is this OUR business, This belongs to ken, and I don't sse that we have the right to try and tell him what to do with his Program.


It isnt. Nor have i said it is. This is a gallup, i asked your opinion. As far as Ken/Gerri goes, some companys PAY to get their customers opinions. Nevertheless i highly doubt either one of them feel insulted by this topic.

Quoting Unicus69:
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My tongue is bleeding.  Please stop. 


No physical pain was intended by this topic.

Quoting Lopek:
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This is for Ken/Gerri to decide, and nothing to do with the community imo. I'll take the Beer thanks. 


Forgot to mention, the beer is in Finland

On another note, why on these forums so many think we cant discuss, ask opinions or in any way comment things that ultimately are desided by Ken? We are customers FFS. Sure, we got more then way paid for, "good deal" i would say. But we are still customers, we have the right to type. Voice our opinions et cetera and Ken has the right to ignore, when he feels so. But who are you to deside when that is?
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DVD Profiler Desktop and Mobile RegistrantDr. Killpatient
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Registered: May 19, 2007
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I agree.  We, as customers, should be able to bring up new ideas and suggestions without being shot down by other customers.  Let Ken decide what to add and what not to add.
DVD Profiler Desktop and Mobile RegistrantStar ContributorTheMadMartian
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Quoting whispering:
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Quoting Unicus69:
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My tongue is bleeding.  Please stop. 


No physical pain was intended by this topic.


Sorry, it was an inside joke and had nothing to do with this topic. 
No dictator, no invader can hold an imprisoned population by force of arms forever.
There is no greater power in the universe than the need for freedom.
Against this power, governments and tyrants and armies cannot stand.
The Centauri learned this lesson once.
We will teach it to them again.
Though it take a thousand years, we will be free.
- Citizen G'Kar
DVD Profiler Desktop and Mobile Registrantpauls42
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Registered: March 13, 2007
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Should a person that constantly and knowingly violates the rules, see that message when he tryes to make a contribution?


I think you have misunderstood the purpose of voting on contributions.

If every contribution exactly matches the rules then there is no purpose on voting. A single person could look at the contribution - decide if a single submission is different in any way from the rules and if so, then get the contribution cancelled.

What actually happens is that contributions may actually push the boundaries of the rules and if accepted by the voters then these (the rules) become an evolving entity to match the expectations / desires of the community.

If a contribution completely breaks the rules then any votes should reject the contribution. The system that Ken (has hopefully) written will note that all the contributions by a specific contributor tend to get rejected and any future contributions should be less likely to be accepted. (Which is what you want I think)
Paul
DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar Contributorwhispering
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If a contribution completely breaks the rules then any votes should reject the contribution. The system that Ken (has hopefully) written will note that all the contributions by a specific contributor tend to get rejected and any future contributions should be less likely to be accepted. (Which is what you want I think)


That is what i want and it works mostly, yes. And i think Ken has done a lot improvment to the system since the IVS days. But when the most notorious user can get his contributions through, to a locked field, when i'm away. Then there is still some room for improvment.
Invelos Software, Inc. RepresentativeKen Cole
Invelos Software
Registered: March 10, 2007
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We do have a contribution privlige system, and have revoked privliges temporarily when needed to call attention to areas of issue with a user's submission.
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DVD Profiler Desktop and Mobile RegistrantMole
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I'll take the Beer thanks. 


Run out of beer   .....

run out of Jack Daniels      .....

found bottle of Jameson's in the cupboard     
Chris
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Should a person that constantly and knowingly violates the rules, see that message when he tryes to make a contribution?


I hope so. If that person is constantly and deliberately violating the Rules, Invelos has every right to suspend or revoke contribution privileges, in my opinion. That decision is up to Ken and Gerri, but as a DVDP user I hope they keep a vigilant eye. 
-- Enry
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I'm just here to be amused.
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DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantWhite Pongo, Jr.
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Quoting pauls42:

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If every contribution exactly matches the rules then there is no purpose on voting. A single person could look at the contribution - decide if a single submission is different in any way from the rules and if so, then get the contribution cancelled.


A single person *could*, in theory, but a few thousand eyes see better than two. 


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What actually happens is that contributions may actually push the boundaries of the rules and if accepted by the voters then these (the rules) become an evolving entity to match the expectations / desires of the community.


I think that's a particular situation in which, as you say, the contribution is pushing the boundieres of the Rules, yet it's not positively violating them, so there is room for interpretation and personal opinions.
In all other cases, I guess we are supposed to vote according to the Rules even when we don't like some of them. We can always ask for change in Forum discussions and polls.

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If a contribution completely breaks the rules then any votes should reject the contribution.


That's it.
-- Enry
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