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| Registered: August 16, 2007 |  Posts: 17 |
| | Posted: | | | | For films such as Sunrise or M, when entering their aspect ratio of 1.20:1 or 1.19:1, the ratio is always displayed in DVD Profiler as 1.33:1 (even though it is stored properly). This needs to be fixed! |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 |  Posts: 2,692 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting The JP Collection: Quote:
For films such as Sunrise or M, when entering their aspect ratio of 1.20:1 or 1.19:1, the ratio is always displayed in DVD Profiler as 1.33:1 (even though it is stored properly). This needs to be fixed! why? | | | | Paul |
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| Registered: August 16, 2007 | | Posts: 17 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting pauls42: Quote:
Quoting The JP Collection:
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For films such as Sunrise or M, when entering their aspect ratio of 1.20:1 or 1.19:1, the ratio is always displayed in DVD Profiler as 1.33:1 (even though it is stored properly). This needs to be fixed!
why? Why? Because the displayed aspect ratio in DVD Profiler does not accurately reflect the aspect ratio encoded on the DVDs for titles like these. |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 810 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting The JP Collection: Quote:
For films such as Sunrise or M, when entering their aspect ratio of 1.20:1 or 1.19:1, the ratio is always displayed in DVD Profiler as 1.33:1 (even though it is stored properly). This needs to be fixed! If you click Widescreen it will display the 1.2:1. It looks like clicking on Pan&Scan or FullFrame forces the display to show 1.33:1. pdf | | | Paul Francis
San Juan Capistrano, CA, USA |
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| Registered: August 16, 2007 | | Posts: 17 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting pdf256: Quote:
Quoting The JP Collection:
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For films such as Sunrise or M, when entering their aspect ratio of 1.20:1 or 1.19:1, the ratio is always displayed in DVD Profiler as 1.33:1 (even though it is stored properly). This needs to be fixed!
If you click Widescreen it will display the 1.2:1. It looks like clicking on Pan&Scan or FullFrame forces the display to show 1.33:1.
pdf Thanks pdf, you're right--that works. This is a good temporary workaround until Ken can correct it. The aspect ratio is displayed as 1.20 or 1.19:1 when also checking the widescreen check box, but 1.20:1 is not widescreen of course. Ken needs to decouple the aspect ratio from the P&S, Full Frame, and Widescreen check boxes. |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 2,694 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting The JP Collection: Quote:
Quoting pdf256:
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Quoting The JP Collection:
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For films such as Sunrise or M, when entering their aspect ratio of 1.20:1 or 1.19:1, the ratio is always displayed in DVD Profiler as 1.33:1 (even though it is stored properly). This needs to be fixed!
If you click Widescreen it will display the 1.2:1. It looks like clicking on Pan&Scan or FullFrame forces the display to show 1.33:1.
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Thanks pdf, you're right--that works. This is a good temporary workaround until Ken can correct it. The aspect ratio is displayed as 1.20 or 1.19:1 when also checking the widescreen check box, but 1.20:1 is not widescreen of course. Ken needs to decouple the aspect ratio from the P&S, Full Frame, and Widescreen check boxes. Why? Full Screen (also known as Academy Standard) is 1.33:1 (1.37:1 in the Golden Age) by defiinition. P&S is a widescreen modified to fit into FS. There is nothing wrong with the way it works. | | | John
"Extremism in the defense of Liberty is no vice!" Senator Barry Goldwater, 1964
Make America Great Again! |
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| Registered: March 14, 2007 | Reputation:  |  Posts: 820 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting The JP Collection: Quote:
For films such as Sunrise or M, when entering their aspect ratio of 1.20:1 or 1.19:1, the ratio is always displayed in DVD Profiler as 1.33:1 (even though it is stored properly). This needs to be fixed! I agree. The aspect ratio should be able to be defined by the user. |
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| Registered: March 15, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 5,459 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting pdf256: Quote:
Quoting The JP Collection:
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For films such as Sunrise or M, when entering their aspect ratio of 1.20:1 or 1.19:1, the ratio is always displayed in DVD Profiler as 1.33:1 (even though it is stored properly). This needs to be fixed!
If you click Widescreen it will display the 1.2:1. It looks like clicking on Pan&Scan or FullFrame forces the display to show 1.33:1.
pdf I think if Ken wants the program to work like that then we need a separate "pillarbox" checkbox for titles like these. Or at the very least an addition to the rules stating that "widescreen" also means "pillarbox". I'm actually trying to think of a term that covers both options so I could suggest renaming the checkbox, but can't think of one - any suggestions? |
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| Registered: March 15, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 5,459 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Rifter: Quote:
Why? Full Screen (also known as Academy Standard) is 1.33:1 (1.37:1 in the Golden Age) by defiinition. P&S is a widescreen modified to fit into FS. There is nothing wrong with the way it works. there is something wrong with the way it works if the program is incorrectly reporting the film ratio. |
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| Registered: August 16, 2007 | | Posts: 17 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Rifter: Quote:
Why? Full Screen (also known as Academy Standard) is 1.33:1 (1.37:1 in the Golden Age) by defiinition. P&S is a widescreen modified to fit into FS. There is nothing wrong with the way it works. Rifter, the DVDs I am referring to are neither Full Screen/Full Frame nor widescreen, but more correctly "pillarboxed" within the 1.33:1 frame (there are vertical black bars on either side). You obviously don't own any DVDs of silent films.  This is an important issue that needs to be fixed. Ken should either add a "pillarboxed" check box underneath the Full Frame check box and allow the correct display of 1.20:1 and 1.19:1, or else decouple the aspect ratio display from the check boxes so P&S, Full Frame, or Widescreen do not need to be checked to display the aspect ratio. |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 6,635 |
| | Posted: | | | | I think "Widescreen", "Full Frame" and "Pan & Scan" should all go away and we need to add "OAR" yes or no.
A/R along with whether it is OAR or not is all the information anyone needs. | | | | Hal | | | | Last edited: by hal9g |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 2,694 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting hal9g: Quote:
I think "Widescreen", "Full Frame" and "Pan & Scan" should all go away and we need to add "OAR" yes or no.
A/R along with whether it is OAR or not is all the information anyone needs. Sez you. | | | John
"Extremism in the defense of Liberty is no vice!" Senator Barry Goldwater, 1964
Make America Great Again! |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 2,694 |
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Quoting Rifter:
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Why? Full Screen (also known as Academy Standard) is 1.33:1 (1.37:1 in the Golden Age) by defiinition. P&S is a widescreen modified to fit into FS. There is nothing wrong with the way it works.
Rifter, the DVDs I am referring to are neither Full Screen/Full Frame nor widescreen, but more correctly "pillarboxed" within the 1.33:1 frame (there are vertical black bars on either side). You obviously don't own any DVDs of silent films.
This is an important issue that needs to be fixed. Ken should either add a "pillarboxed" check box underneath the Full Frame check box and allow the correct display of 1.20:1 and 1.19:1, or else decouple the aspect ratio display from the check boxes so P&S, Full Frame, or Widescreen do not need to be checked to display the aspect ratio. I have no problem adding those other ratios, but realistically, how many of those are out there? And yes, I am fully aware that there are such things. I'm not a neophyte at this. Point of order, however, is that those sub Academy ratio movies are damn few and far between on DVD, and are within the 1.33 ratio setting, so while it isn't ideal, it will suffice until Ken decides whether or not to address it. | | | John
"Extremism in the defense of Liberty is no vice!" Senator Barry Goldwater, 1964
Make America Great Again! |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 6,635 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Rifter: Quote:
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I think "Widescreen", "Full Frame" and "Pan & Scan" should all go away and we need to add "OAR" yes or no.
A/R along with whether it is OAR or not is all the information anyone needs.
Sez you. What do "Widescreen", "Full Frame" and "Pan & Scan" tell you that A/R + OAR don't?  | | | | Hal |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 6,635 |
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Quoting Rifter:
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Quoting hal9g:
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I think "Widescreen", "Full Frame" and "Pan & Scan" should all go away and we need to add "OAR" yes or no.
A/R along with whether it is OAR or not is all the information anyone needs.
Sez you.
What do "Widescreen", "Full Frame" and "Pan & Scan" tell you that A/R + OAR don't? Well, Rifter? You're quick with the smartass replies. How about an answer to the question? | | | | Hal |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 21,610 |
| | Posted: | | | | Hal
How would you document OAR, many of them I know what the OAR was but there are also a lot that I don't. Do you know of a good reference site? Also not terribly sure what OAR is going to gain us info wise, other than trivia.
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