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titles with copyright or trademark, or registered logos.. |
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Registered: March 20, 2007 | Posts: 72 |
| Posted: | | | | What about titles with the "R" with a cercal around it. or TM for trademark in the title. I don't thing this should be part of the title. For example, i have "The History Channel® Presents: The Alamo". I think it should be without the ®. What does everyone else think...? |
| Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 20,111 |
| Posted: | | | | Hmm, I don't know... I can't even remember ever encountering that before. | | | Corey |
| Registered: March 20, 2007 | Posts: 72 |
| Posted: | | | | i also wonder about the overview. somepeople also do this when an overview has these logos. |
| Registered: March 13, 2007 | Posts: 21,610 |
| Posted: | | | | It is part of the overview, obatu. Read the Rules again.
Overviews Overviews should match the back of the DVD case exactly, including capitalization of words exactly as it is shown on the back of the case. If words are highlighted in italic or bold on the case, then identify them with ‘single quotation’ marks. Exception: If the entire overview uses an uppercase font, enter the overview using standard capitalization rules.
Never include the following items in overviews:
* Taglines * Reviews (unless they are incorporated into the text of the overview on the case) * Extra features * Hyperlinks or other HTML
For multi-language cases, use only the language of the DVDs locality.
When there is no overview on the case, add a simple, self-written overview of 1-2 paragraphs. Do not include spoilers and always match the overview language to the profile's locality.
For Concert / Music Videos you may include a listing of Song titles and length, if available.
As for the title, likeKat, I can't say I recall seeing it.
Skip | | | ASSUME NOTHING!!!!!! CBE, MBE, MoA and proud of it. Outta here
Billy Video |
| Registered: March 20, 2007 | Posts: 72 |
| Posted: | | | | so keep Trademark symbols and trademark symbols in overviews.. that is cool. not really an issue. but in the title it bugs me. when I tried to remove it, it was voted no, by one person. Probably the only other person who has this title. Thus it was declined. |
| Registered: March 13, 2007 | Posts: 21,610 |
| Posted: | | | | Well then you have your answer.
I wouldn't vote no I either Overview or Title, if you chose not to include it, that is up to you, but if it is there and you try to remove it then a No vote is definitely valid.
Skip | | | ASSUME NOTHING!!!!!! CBE, MBE, MoA and proud of it. Outta here
Billy Video |
| Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 20,111 |
| Posted: | | | | obatu100, you were asking about the Overview then? I thought you meant in the actual film title. Yes, the trademark and/or cercal symbols should definitely be included if shown as part of the Overview. | | | Corey |
| Registered: March 20, 2007 | Posts: 72 |
| Posted: | | | | started in the title, but then also asked about the overview..
I am more interested in the title. |
| Registered: March 14, 2007 | Posts: 1,777 |
| Posted: | | | | If somebody actually got it entered in the title and approved, it was a screw up. Unless of course we are tracking italics, font colors and other such nonsense in our titles as well. There are about 3 people in these forums who will tell you differently, but everyone else seems to recognize that these legality symbols would be improper to include in the actual title.
Let the flaming begin. |
| Registered: March 13, 2007 | Posts: 21,610 |
| Posted: | | | | Midnitoil:
No need to flame. I have said I had not noticed it, that is not the same as recognizing that the symbols are improper. I am not at all certain that would be true. I have a dreadful feeling, knowing Gene Roddenberry that Star Trek is a trademark, after all the U.S.S. Enterprise is a registered trademark. Now that it has been brought up, I will be looking closer for it, to see how common place it might be.
Skip | | | ASSUME NOTHING!!!!!! CBE, MBE, MoA and proud of it. Outta here
Billy Video |
| Registered: March 13, 2007 | Posts: 4,596 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting mdnitoil: Quote: If somebody actually got it entered in the title and approved, it was a screw up. Unless of course we are tracking italics, font colors and other such nonsense in our titles as well. There are about 3 people in these forums who will tell you differently, but everyone else seems to recognize that these legality symbols would be improper to include in the actual title.
Let the flaming begin. No flameage from me. I completely agree that trademark & copyright symbols have no place in the title. | | | My WebGenDVD online Collection |
| Registered: March 20, 2007 | Posts: 72 |
| Posted: | | | | ok, now we have two conversations going.. 1) in title, and 2) in overview. It seems we all agree about the title.. No.
How about the overview? The start Trek was a good example. I have ST Insurection & Nemisis, standard versions. (097363358879 &09736338994)
On the back of Insurection there is a TM after Star Trek. Toward the top, part of the Quote from George Powell. This TM is not in the DVDP overview. On Nemesis, Enterprise has a TM on the back of the box. This TM is in the DVDP overview. What one should be correct?
I don't think they are needed, but i don't really object to them being there. Although, I don't think an overview should be turned down if the TM markings are missing. |
| Registered: March 13, 2007 | Posts: 2,694 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting obatu100: Quote: ok, now we have two conversations going.. 1) in title, and 2) in overview. It seems we all agree about the title.. No.
How about the overview? The start Trek was a good example. I have ST Insurection & Nemisis, standard versions. (097363358879 &09736338994)
On the back of Insurection there is a TM after Star Trek. Toward the top, part of the Quote from George Powell. This TM is not in the DVDP overview. On Nemesis, Enterprise has a TM on the back of the box. This TM is in the DVDP overview. What one should be correct?
I don't think they are needed, but i don't really object to them being there. Although, I don't think an overview should be turned down if the TM markings are missing. On the contrary, updates have been turned down in the past for not including the copyright and trademark symbols if they were present. I have submitted several Overview changes in the past to add them to profiles that had been approved without them. If they appear in either title of overview, then they should be included, personal opinions notwithstanding. | | | John
"Extremism in the defense of Liberty is no vice!" Senator Barry Goldwater, 1964 Make America Great Again! |
| Registered: August 22, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 1,807 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting Rifter: Quote: If they appear in either title of overview, then they should be included, personal opinions notwithstanding. Agreed. Let's report titles and overviews as they are on the cover, including TM, (C) and (R) if present. Edit: On second thought, after reading other comments, I reckon there are reasons not to include those special symbols in the *title*, as those may cause problems in searching/sorting by title. | | | -- Enry | | | Last edited: by White Pongo, Jr. |
| Registered: May 8, 2007 | Posts: 663 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting obatu100: Quote: What about titles with the "R" with a cercal around it. or TM for trademark in the title. I don't thing this should be part of the title. For example, i have "The History Channel® Presents: The Alamo". I think it should be without the ®. What does everyone else think...? I just downloaded this title to my wishlist, just so I could see what you were talking about. The cover does have the ® behind the word Channel, so I would have to agree with the "No" voters on removing this. | | | We're on a mission from God.
| | | Last edited: by Mike D. |
| Registered: March 14, 2007 | Posts: 1,777 |
| Posted: | | | | Personally, I'm indifferent towards the overview. People seem to want these symbols cluttering them up and more power to them. However, if you really believe that a title must have these ridiculous trademark symbols in them, which are only there to legally protect a company's brand, then you must argue for color, font type and size, etc. Are we capturing the title as read, or the title as pictured? A subtle distinction to be sure. If you want copyright and registration symbols, I would suggest you want the title as pictured, because nobody reads "The History Channel (registered) Presents: The Alamo". If that's the case, then you would also care that the print was done in red. | | | Last edited: by mdnitoil |
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