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DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantGillaspy
Registered: June 22, 2007
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I Steel Don’t Under Stand Why Every One Is So Afraid of Copy Right Infringements, I Have over 1000 DVD's in my collection that means I Would Have to Buy 4 Sony DVD Changers to Keep Up, So I Have Went Another Way.

I Have:

6 Western Digital My Book Pro 500 GB External Hard Drives
1 HP 400 GB Personal Drive
1 250 GB Buslink External Hard Drive
1 300 GB Internal C: Drive

Total Of About 4 TB

So I Started Copying My Movies To Drive, Now You Ask Why Well How Many Of Your DVD Are Scratched or Getting Hard To Play, Well When You Copy The DVD To Drive You Have A Digital Copy, Perfect.

But My Problem Is There is No Good Software Out There To Make A DVD Jukebox, I Like DVD Profiler the Most But It Still Won’t Let you add A File Location To Play The Movie In My List. So I Started Using My Movies 2, It’s Not As Cool Looking as DVD Profiler but It Will Interface With Window Media Center And You Can Play The Move From Its Menu.

I Found A The Perfect Option For My Problem, It Called Kaleidescape But I’m Not Ready To
Spend $25,000 Dollars on It Right Now.

Look What I Am Doing Every One Will Do Sooner or Later When There Is A Good DVD Software Available.


Thanks
ETD
DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorKatatonia
Retired Profiler
Registered: March 13, 2007
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Wasn't that a lengthy process to capitalize the first letter of each word?
Corey
DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorWinston Smith
Don't be discommodious
Registered: March 13, 2007
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Quoting Gillaspy:
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I Steel Don’t Under Stand Why Every One Is So Afraid of Copy Right Infringements, I Have over 1000 DVD's in my collection that means I Would Have to Buy 4 Sony DVD Changers to Keep Up, So I Have Went Another Way.

I Have:

6 Western Digital My Book Pro 500 GB External Hard Drives
1 HP 400 GB Personal Drive
1 250 GB Buslink External Hard Drive
1 300 GB Internal C: Drive

Total Of About 4 TB

So I Started Copying My Movies To Drive, Now You Ask Why Well How Many Of Your DVD Are Scratched or Getting Hard To Play, Well When You Copy The DVD To Drive You Have A Digital Copy, Perfect.

But My Problem Is There is No Good Software Out There To Make A DVD Jukebox, I Like DVD Profiler the Most But It Still Won’t Let you add A File Location To Play The Movie In My List. So I Started Using My Movies 2, It’s Not As Cool Looking as DVD Profiler but It Will Interface With Window Media Center And You Can Play The Move From Its Menu.

I Found A The Perfect Option For My Problem, It Called Kaleidescape But I’m Not Ready To
Spend $25,000 Dollars on It Right Now.

Look What I Am Doing Every One Will Do Sooner or Later When There Is A Good DVD Software Available.


Thanks
ETD



Well let's see $250,000 fines per title and/or 5 years in prison should you get caught and convicted, I would say is pretty good incentive. Now what do you do, you paint a big red target on your chest by posting your specifics here and set yourself for any legal authority who might monitor these boards to begin an investigation on you. or should a user decide to notify the authorities. Definitely not an intelligent thing for you to do.

Skip
ASSUME NOTHING!!!!!!
CBE, MBE, MoA and proud of it.
Outta here

Billy Video
DVD Profiler Desktop and Mobile RegistrantMarEll
Registered: June 9, 2007
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Just as a side note, you CAN launch the film from within DVDp.  I do it with my trailers.
DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar Contributorruineddaydreams
Registered: Dec. 2, 2002
Registered: March 14, 2007
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Just as a side note, you CAN launch the film from within DVDp.  I do it with my trailers.


-JoN
DVD Profiler Desktop and Mobile Registrantlmoelleb
Beer Profiler now!
Registered: March 14, 2007
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Well let's see $250,000 fines per title and/or 5 years in prison should you get caught and convicted, I would say is pretty good incentive.

How can you see he is subject to US jurisdiction (I am guessing it's from US law you get your numbers, but you really should include this information - the numbers are useless without)????
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Lars
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DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantGillaspy
Registered: June 22, 2007
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MOUNTAIN VIEW, CA – March 29, 2007 — Kaleidescape Inc. is pleased to announce that today, after a seven-day trial, Judge Leslie C. Nichols of the Santa Clara Superior Court ruled that Kaleidescape is in full compliance with the DVD Copy Control Association's license to the Content Scramble System, the method used to encrypt video and audio data on DVDs. As part of his statement of decision, Judge Nichols noted Kaleidescape’s good faith in its efforts to ensure that its products were fully compliant.
DVD Profiler Desktop and Mobile RegistrantStar ContributorTheMadMartian
Alien with an attitude
Registered: March 13, 2007
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Maybe I am being thick here but was there a 'feature request' in here that I missed? 
No dictator, no invader can hold an imprisoned population by force of arms forever.
There is no greater power in the universe than the need for freedom.
Against this power, governments and tyrants and armies cannot stand.
The Centauri learned this lesson once.
We will teach it to them again.
Though it take a thousand years, we will be free.
- Citizen G'Kar
DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantRandall_Lind
Registered: May 10, 2007
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you miss the point of DVD Profiler it is for keeping track of your collection not playing them.
DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantVibroCount
The Truth is Silly Putty
Registered: March 13, 2007
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Quoting Katatonia:
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Wasn't that a lengthy process to capitalize the first letter of each word?


When I send text messages or email from my wireless phone, it is very hard not to capitalize every word (which is the default and hard-to-overcome setting). Perhaps his Blackberry or other wireless device was used to browse this forum and submit his post.
If it wasn't for bad taste, I wouldn't have no taste at all.

Cliff
DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantLuke Teaford
Registered: March 13, 2007
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Wait, are you saying it's unlawful to "rip" DVDs to your hard drive?

For instance, I am going on an odyssey/bender/vacation to the desert in a few months, so I was just going to store digital versions of some films that way I don't have to be bothered with the actual discs.  I won't be giving away the digital versions, and I own the discs from which they're made-- that's not illegal, is it?
DVD Profiler Desktop and Mobile RegistrantDr. Killpatient
Here's my card
Registered: May 19, 2007
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Techincally, you are allowed to make one backup copy of your DVD's.  Forget the fact that the Studios try to prevent you from making backups and try to close down/sue any product that lets you make a backup copy.

I don't think creating a backup copy on your hard drive and using that to view in leu of the physical DVD is illegal.

I believe the key here is to use "backup" instead of "rip".  "Rip" rings too much of "Rip Off".

Disclaimer: I am not a Lawyer
DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorWinston Smith
Don't be discommodious
Registered: March 13, 2007
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Wait, are you saying it's unlawful to "rip" DVDs to your hard drive?

For instance, I am going on an odyssey/bender/vacation to the desert in a few months, so I was just going to store digital versions of some films that way I don't have to be bothered with the actual discs.  I won't be giving away the digital versions, and I own the discs from which they're made-- that's not illegal, is it?


There has not been a test case in this particular scenario...YET, Luke. But let's take a look at a possibility, you own the DVD and create a single backup on your HDD, this is "theoretically" OK under existing Rulings, but now you decide to copy the HDD to your IPod so you can view it while mobile, now you have violated the Copyright law and the penalties that COULD fall from that. The easiest way to think about it is that you own a license for the DVD for PERSONAL viewing and use, you do NOT own the material contents of the medium that ownership belongs to whoever hoilds rthe copyright.

I am not a lawyer either, I don't play one on TV, BUT I did stay at a Holiday Inn Express last night.

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Outta here

Billy Video
DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantGillaspy
Registered: June 22, 2007
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Look The DMCA has not to this date has not won one single case in court avout copying DVD for Home Use.

The 321 Studios Case.
Another instance where this model could have been tapped is the fight over the "DVD X Copy" and "DVD Copy Plus" software products sold by 321 Studios, which allow consumers to make backup copies of DVDs. In fact, 321 Studios is currently involved in a heated lawsuit with the members of the Motion Picture Association of America (MPAA) over the legality of 321's software, which MPAA believes violates Section 1201 of the Digital Millennium Copyright Act of 1998. Section 1201 bans technologies that would circumvent or defeat the technological measures used by copyright owners to protect access to their works. This anti-circumvention mandate is quickly proving to be one of the most controversial copyright reforms passed by Congress in years and now threatens to remove software from the market that is being used for entirely legitimate and lawful purposes.

MPAA president Jack Valenti -- the same man who once said, "the VCR is to the American film producer and the American public as the Boston strangler is to the woman home alone" -- has argued that consumers have no legitimate need for software products like those sold by 321. Last November he said, "If you buy a DVD you have a copy. If you want a backup copy you buy another one." But this worldview is not consistent with the rights consumers already enjoy with regard to time-shifting or saving content on audio cassettes or VHS video tapes. Consumers should have the reasonable expectation that they will be able to make at least some copies of the content they purchase, whether that content appears in books, music, or movies. For example, I have personally used similar DVD backup software called "DVD Shrink" that I freely downloaded from an overseas website to copy and burn my favorite individual movie scenes onto a single DVD. I use this single DVD to show friends and family all my favorite DVD scenes in rapid succession without having to put the original movie in the player each time. (This is similar to what millions of American already do with music when they burn their favorite songs onto one tape or CD.)

But, following the logic of the case against 321, presumably the MPAA would like to see the "freeware" I downloaded outlawed and then throw me in jail to boot. But why? It's hard to see how I've broken the copyright bargain in this case since I went out and purchased dozens of new movies to make this compilation of my favorite movie scenes. If, however, I had made additional copies of this compilation DVD and sold them on e-Bay, or even shared the disc with the entire world via a P2P network, I would agree that I had crossed a line and broken the copyright bargain and should be held liable for my actions. And 321 Studios acknowledges this, too. On their "Protect Fair Use" website, the company states, "Fair use isn't the same as free use. Consumers shouldn't have the right to make copies for commercial use without the permission of copyright holders. They should not be able to sell illegally acquired copies of digital works, either on disk or over the Internet." That's exactly right, and the proper course of action in cases where consumers betray this trust would be for the movie studios to file suit against them for undercutting the commercial viability of their products. But if millions of average movie lovers like me are considered criminals for merely copying a few of their favorite movies or individual scenes onto a different disc, then something has gone horribly wrong with copyright law in America.

Intellectual property plays a vital role in our modern Information Age economy, but we should not adopt a "by-any-means-necessary" approach to copyright enforcement. Targeted, court-based adjudication of clear-cut copyright infringement is the better way to balance the interests of consumers and creators.
DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantGillaspy
Registered: June 22, 2007
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All i am saying is that it would be nice to have a play butten in my profiler so i can play the movies that i have in my database. What rong with that
DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar Contributornorthbloke
Registered: March 15, 2007
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All i am saying is that it would be nice to have a play butten in my profiler so i can play the movies that i have in my database. What rong with that


You can, just create an HTML window with a link that points to your movie on the hard drive.
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