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| Registered: March 14, 2007 |  Posts: 1,777 |
| | Posted: | | | | Okay, this wasn't my submission, but I can understand the frustration. Basically, it makes me wonder what in the hell Universal was thinking when they put out this DVD. I mean, has anyone ever in their lifetime had a conversation about this movie and felt it necessary to qualify it with, "you know, Alfred Hitchcock's version?"  In any book, magazine, database or other movie reference material you can think of, this movie is simply called "The Birds." Heck, it's even called that in the movie credits...you know, our holy grail of what constitutes correct information. But for god knows what reason, Universal saw fit to dump Alfred Hitchcock's... on the cover. What a bunch of idiots. Especially since we now will slavishly repeat this nonsense as if it were holy writ.  I eagerly await "Orson Wells' Citizen Kane." |
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| Registered: March 14, 2007 | Reputation:  |  Posts: 4,672 |
| | Posted: | | | | I share your frustration. If it was up to me, the rule would be that possessives should only be used when they are clearly part of the title, like "Claire's Knee". And, I guess, "Lemony Snicket's A Series of Unfortunate Events". But definitely not "Alfred Hitchcock's The Birds". Unfortunately, it's not up to me...  | | | My freeware tools for DVD Profiler users.
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 21,610 |
| | Posted: | | | | Check both the cover and the On Screen title. Alfred Hitchcock's The Birds it is. Therefore changing it to the birds is a non-no. Now for the record I leave it to sort as the The Birds for the reasons mentioned but that is irrelevant to what the title IS.
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 4,596 |
| | Posted: | | | | The DVD cover clearly shows the DVD title to be "Alfred Hitchcock's The Birds". The film's credits also clearly show the title of the film to be "Alfred Hitchcock's The Birds". Nuf said. | | | | My WebGenDVD online Collection |
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| Registered: March 14, 2007 | | Posts: 1,777 |
| | Posted: | | | | Actually, it's not. In the film credits, you get "Alfred Hitchcock's" on one title card, followed by "The Birds" on another title card. Frankly, that's no different than "Joe Blow's production of.....", which we don't include in the title. I know I'm annoying, but them's the facts. A movie's title appears on it's own title card in the credits. |
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 | Dan W | | Registered: May 9, 2002 |
| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 980 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting mdnitoil: Quote:
Actually, it's not. In the film credits, you get "Alfred Hitchcock's" on one title card, followed by "The Birds" on another title card. Frankly, that's no different than "Joe Blow's production of.....", which we don't include in the title. I know I'm annoying, but them's the facts. A movie's title appears on it's own title card in the credits. I have never been aware that we are accepting "Title Cards" as references. BTW, there is only one title card that has ever been released for this film. Perhaps you are thinking of something else? | | | | Dan |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 21,610 |
| | Posted: | | | | Midntoil: I am so tired of user's like you trying to nitpick things to get yourinterpretation and manipulate the database to suit yourself. If you want it to be The Birds...fine...do so...LOCALLY It is what it is and that is all there is to it. Like I said from an Onliune Point of View LIVE WITH IT. Skip | | | ASSUME NOTHING!!!!!!
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 |  Posts: 813 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting mdnitoil: Quote:
Actually, it's not. In the film credits, you get "Alfred Hitchcock's" on one title card, followed by "The Birds" on another title card. Frankly, that's no different than "Joe Blow's production of.....", which we don't include in the title. I know I'm annoying, but them's the facts. A movie's title appears on it's own title card in the credits. If that is the case then imo the title is The Birds. Unless someone wants to try and invoke the Modified Title rule to use the coverart title. But that would be plain silly imo. But then I have seen sillier around here.  | | | Andy 
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| Registered: March 14, 2007 | | Posts: 1,777 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting skipnet50: Quote:
Midntoil:
I am so tired of user's like you trying to nitpick things to get yourinterpretation and manipulate the database to suit yourself. If you want it to be The Birds...fine...do so...LOCALLY It is what it is and that is all there is to it. Like I said from an Onliune Point of View LIVE WITH IT.
Skip I'm not even the one who submitted this profile. I was only making note of the fact that we have the dubious honor of having the only database in the world that doesn't recognize a film called "The Birds." And really, let's not even get started on nitpicking. I've actually watched you parse siingle letters in the rules to justify some of your more extravagant "interpretations". |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 21,610 |
| | Posted: | | | | | | | ASSUME NOTHING!!!!!!
CBE, MBE, MoA and proud of it.
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation:  | | Posts: 2,372 |
| | Posted: | | | | too late.
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| Registered: March 14, 2007 | | Posts: 1,777 |
| | Posted: | | | | all bow, after 40+ years, we've magically discovered the true title to this film that has eluded the rest of the world. Yeah, right. |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 21,610 |
| | Posted: | | | | I am so glad to see you keeping score, lopek. I have said it before....I could care LESS, and about the only thing I acre less about than that is your opinion, since you have proven yourself.
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 813 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting lyonsden5: Quote:
Don't bite Andy. 
I've shipped you a foil hat. With the overseas delivery it may take a day or two to get there though. Too late...  But I'll look forward to it's arrival! You should start a business, you could make a killing around here, there has to be a huge demand  | | | Andy
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| Registered: March 14, 2007 | | Posts: 1,777 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Dan W: Quote:
I have never been aware that we are accepting "Title Cards" as references. BTW, there is only one title card that has ever been released for this film. Perhaps you are thinking of something else? Dan, when I say title card, I refer to the actual title card that appears on screen during the credits. I just popped the film in and double checked. "Alfred Hitchcock's" and "The Birds" appear on completely separate screens in the film credits. |
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