| Author |
Message |
| Registered: March 14, 2007 |  Posts: 85 |
| | Posted: | | | | Just thinking.... - and: I know the rules: "Enter birth years only when necessary to differentiate between two actors with the same name." But - Why don't we add the birth year to every crew/cast member?  The birth year is in standard layout visible - but at this time only filled for a few members. Pro: It's an interesting fact, how old an actor is in the movie.  Pro: The field is in the database - so why don't we use it? Request: Why not change it to birth date, use filters for it, etc. Contra: Every profile would have updates... hard work for the community Contra: no other - for me  This is just a discussion about this topic - please, don't add birth years as long as the current contribution rules are valid ...  |
|
| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 465 |
| | Posted: | | | | Two simple reasons:
1. It's third party site data
2. For many actors you don't find confirmed birth dates | | | | Michael |
|
| Registered: March 13, 2007 |  Posts: 2,694 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting TigiHof: Quote:
Two simple reasons:
1. It's third party site data
2. For many actors you don't find confirmed birth dates Your second reason is more important than the first. If you can't document it, you can't add it. | | | John
"Extremism in the defense of Liberty is no vice!" Senator Barry Goldwater, 1964
Make America Great Again! |
|
| Registered: March 14, 2007 | | Posts: 85 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting TigiHof: Quote:
Two simple reasons:
1. It's third party site data
2. For many actors you don't find confirmed birth dates 1. Why does it matter? Use wikipedia as a free source... 2. OK, what is 'confirmed'? my guess: imdb is not 'good' for the community ... or just use google - for my opinion - if you find the birth date on two ore three different sites it's a fact! |
|
| Registered: March 13, 2007 |  Posts: 582 |
| | Posted: | | | | It would also reduce the number of contributions. I don't mind contributing when all the information is need is there on the disc but if I had to start searching a cast of 25 actors one by one to find their birth dates I would stop contributing because I simply wouldn't have the time for this.
I'm most probably not the only one who would feel that way. | | | My 4x4 Club: Club FJ Cruiser Quebec
DVDP Français: Forum DVD Profiler Français
DVDCOL:DVD Collectors Online
Video: LG RU-42PX10
Audio: Sony DreamSystem DAVFX100W | | | | Last edited: by Touti |
|
| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 38 |
| |
  | Kevin | | Registered March 22, 2001 |
| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 609 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting omueller: Quote:
1. Why does it matter? Use wikipedia as a free source...
2. OK, what is 'confirmed'? my guess: imdb is not 'good' for the community ... or just use google -
for my opinion - if you find the birth date on two ore three different sites it's a fact! For #1 above - wikipedia is not an official source. Since it is user driven, like IMDB, it's considered (I think) third party data. Unreliable. For #2 above - I dispute that. Many celebrities don't have their true birthdates posted anywhere, even with the government and their agents. Just because two or three sites say something, doesn't make it correct. |
|
| Registered: May 29, 2007 | Reputation:  | | Posts: 3,475 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Kevin: Quote:
Quoting omueller:
Quote:
1. Why does it matter? Use wikipedia as a free source...
2. OK, what is 'confirmed'? my guess: imdb is not 'good' for the community ... or just use google -
for my opinion - if you find the birth date on two ore three different sites it's a fact!
For #1 above - wikipedia is not an official source. Since it is user driven, like IMDB, it's considered (I think) third party data. Unreliable.
For #2 above - I dispute that. Many celebrities don't have their true birthdates posted anywhere, even with the government and their agents. Just because two or three sites say something, doesn't make it correct. Agree. But - what legitimate source could be utilized IF birth date were implemented for everyone? I have no idea what source, professional organization, etc. would be have the desired requirements; legal, free, reliable, in-depth, etc. In an ideal world a list of resources would be developed, voted on, and implemented. Everyone would be given a birth year based on the source implemented. If, in the rare instance a birth year were not available, N/A would be entered. |
|
| Registered: May 9, 2007 |  Posts: 1,536 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Touti: Quote:
It would also reduce the number of contributions. I don't mind contributing when all the information is need is there on the disc but if I had to start searching a cast of 25 actors one by one to find their birth dates I would stop contributing because I simply wouldn't have the time for this.
I'm most probably not the only one who would feel that way. Whatever "we" decide, I don't think this should ever become a requirement! | | | | Hans |
|
| Registered: May 29, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 3,475 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Staid S Barr: Quote:
Whatever "we" decide, I don't think this should ever become a requirement! Fun to think about/discuss yes. Requirement no. | | | | Last edited: by Kathy |
|
| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 21,610 |
| | Posted: | | | | Are we going to start sending out Birthday cards?
Skip | | | ASSUME NOTHING!!!!!!
CBE, MBE, MoA and proud of it.
Outta here
Billy Video |
|
| Registered: March 14, 2007 | | Reputation: |  Posts: 2,368 |
| | Posted: | | | | It is just a lot of extra hard work, when it is enough to ensure the accuracy of the disc data.  |
|
| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 810 |
| | Posted: | | | | Because it would be a huge pain to find them all from reliable sources. pdf | | | Paul Francis
San Juan Capistrano, CA, USA |
|
| Registered: April 7, 2007 |  Posts: 357 |
| | Posted: | | | | I can't see what harm it would do if people were allowed to contribute documented DOB to whoever they like with a couple of provisos. No submissions just to add DOB unless it is to differentiate and definitely no requirement to add them when creating a cast or crew member. |
|
| Registered: March 18, 2007 | | Posts: 150 |
| | Posted: | | | | I always thought that it was an actors guild thing not to have two (or more) actors with the same on screen name.
Can anyone enlighten me on what the actual rules are.
Ritch | | | | Learning is not mandatory, but then neither is survival. |
|
| Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation:  |  Posts: 3,436 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting ritchf: Quote:
I always thought that it was an actors guild thing not to have two (or more) actors with the same on screen name.
Can anyone enlighten me on what the actual rules are. I believe you are correct (it's been mentioned in the forum before). However, nt all actors are members of the guild. | | | Achim [諾亞信； Ya-Shin//Nuo], a German in Taiwan.
Registered: May 29, 2000 (at InterVocative) |
|