Hi there...

I have a simple question concerning BoxSets:

A movie was released twice, first as Theatrical Cut - and then as Extended Cut. And then.... - they took a DigiPack and put all two films (the Theatrical Cut and the Extended Cut) in one package. None of them is described as "Main Feature" or "Bonus Feature" of this new release.

It is an 4 Disc-Special Edition (1 Disc: Theatrical Cut, 2 Discs: Extended Cut, 1 Disc: Extras) together in one package.

I don't mention the movie's name here, because I think, this should be a principle question.

What do you think.... - is this a BoxSet? Are Director's Cut and Theatrical Edition two different films?

I would make it a box set, add both movies by disc id as child profile, lock the whole thing and keep it local.

Quoting Lexxx:

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Hi there...

I have a simple question concerning BoxSets:

A movie was released twice, first as Theatrical Cut - and then as Extended Cut. And then.... - they took a DigiPack and put all two films (the Theatrical Cut and the Extended Cut) in one package. None of them is described as "Main Feature" or "Bonus Feature" of this new release.

It is an 4 Disc-Special Edition (1 Disc: Theatrical Cut, 2 Discs: Extended Cut, 1 Disc: Extras) together in one package.

I don't mention the movie's name here, because I think, this should be a principle question.

What do you think.... - is this a BoxSet? Are Director's Cut and Theatrical Edition two different films?

If one is the theatrical cut, and one is the director's cut, then you have two different versions.  Profile it as a boxset.

For me, in this case, the deciding factir will be "How is it packaged?"

If all disks are in the same case --> Not a boxset

If you have a case for the theatrcal cut, a double case for the director's cut and a third case for the bonus --> Then it's a boxset and you must create 3 child profiles for each case.

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The term "Box Set" is used to define any release that includes more than one film.

I am sure you all know this, I only quoted to point out that the thing that needs to be clarified is a definition for "film".  I have seen several discussions on boxsets even in my short time here. And there seems to be very different ideas of what constitues a "film"  Different versions?  Different titles?  We shouldn't have to discuss (not that I mind a good discussion) every title that has more than one disk.  The problem is that it seems to eventually lead to arguments and namecalling. 

Not to pick on one person but tarantino's comment

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For me, in this case, the deciding factir will be "How is it packaged?"

Again from the rules:

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#  Sets where each film is packaged individually, and held together in a package of some kind.
# Sets where each film is on a separate disc, but not individually packaged.

So, basically how it is packaged is not the problem.  We need to decide what is a definition for "film"  and that definition will make the "box-set" decision simple.

That doesn't mean there won't be some exceptions, there are always things that don't fit the rule.  For example, if we decide different versions are not a box-set....what if one is animated version and one is not?  Haven't seen it, but that doesn't mean someday we won't get 'The Wizard of Oz' packaged like that.  I think after a bit of discussion, then Ken should make a decission on the definition he intended when he wrote the rule and that should solve this box-set issue.

Just my 2 cents.
Peabody

I agree with what you are saying Tarantino, I was just using that for an example.  I don't have the answer and don't disagree with any of the opinions posted so far.  Unfortunately, it will have to come down to one way or the other.

I don't know how hard it would be to do this, I used to do a bit of programming but not a program as full featured as this.  We have a place to check Widescreen and Pan and Scan and can check both if the disk has both.  We can select DTS and 5.1 and Stereo and have them all show.  Why not ask Ken if it's possible (I know it's possible...he may just have too much on his plate right now) if we could make the Dropdown for Edition work like the one for Studios.  That way we wouln't have to go the boxset route, we could put "Theatrical version" and "Director's Cut" if it has both.  The case type is already there for digipak if more than one disk or keepcase if double sided.  The disc info is already there for multiple discs.  The checkboxes for extra features is there.  All we need is one dropdown box to show that it has both versions.
And we could still download by UPC without having to go to discID.  I have already had one (I think it was Dragonheart:2 Legendary Tales-that is a boxset) where the second side discID was different than the one online.  So we may run into the same problem with boxset for Dir Cut where the UPC matches but one of the discIDs is different. 

Just came to mind: Would create a problem if the directors are not the same, wouldn't it.

Oh, well, back to the drawing board.

Peabody

Quoting tarantino:

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For me, in this case, the deciding factir will be "How is it packaged?"

If all disks are in the same case --> Not a boxset

If you have a case for the theatrcal cut, a double case for the director's cut and a third case for the bonus --> Then it's a boxset and you must create 3 child profiles for each case.

That won't work. Example: Alien Quadrilogy. An amount of movies in a DigiPack (not individually packaged).

Quoting Lexxx:

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Quoting tarantino:

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For me, in this case, the deciding factir will be "How is it packaged?"

If all disks are in the same case --> Not a boxset

If you have a case for the theatrcal cut, a double case for the director's cut and a third case for the bonus --> Then it's a boxset and you must create 3 child profiles for each case.

That won't work. Example: Alien Quadrilogy. An amount of movies in a DigiPack (not individually packaged).

But Alien Quadrilogy contains four movies, not just one. So this example is not useful.

You asked in the opening post about one movie in different versions in one set, tarantino answered to that! I think he, me and all will agree that an edition like the "Alien Quadrilogy" should be a boxset with child profiles, because there are 4 different movies in that Digipak. But Packaging should be "Digipak".

But as you asked, Theatrical and Director's/Extended Cut are not necessarily two different movies. In most cases they are just one movie in different versions. So they have to be entered just a one main profile without child profiles.