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DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantCadetStimpy
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While viewing my Collection List, if I type a "D", for example, it goes to Da Vinci Code, my first "D" movie, alphabetically.  However, if I type an "M", it goes to Blazing Saddles.  I presume, of course, it's going there because it's Mel Brooks' Blazing Saddles.  However, I have edited the DVD Title and Sort Title to just Blazing Saddles (Mel Brooks is removed), so where is it finding the "M"?

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Yeah, I've got the same problem with J. It goes to Diamon's Are Forever, because of James Bond presumably, but there's no sort title associated with that movie. And it's listed among the D's as it should be.

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While viewing my Collection List, if I type a "D", for example, it goes to Da Vinci Code, my first "D" movie, alphabetically.  However, if I type an "M", it goes to Blazing Saddles.  I presume, of course, it's going there because it's Mel Brooks' Blazing Saddles.  However, I have edited the DVD Title and Sort Title to just Blazing Saddles (Mel Brooks is removed), so where is it finding the "M"?

Mike


You have to rerun your numbering applet to recreate the list.  Go to 'Collection' > 'Reassign Coll. Numbers' > check the 'Reassign All Collection Numbers' button and the 'Order By: Titles' button - those two only > 'OK'.

That will reorder the list using Sort Title and make no other changes.

NOTE:  First make sure you have all your sort titles the way you want them using the Edit mode for each title.
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The name of the movie is:

"Mel Brooks Blazing Saddles"

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The name of the movie is:

"Mel Brooks Blazing Saddles"

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Except he wants it to sort as "Blazing Saddles" sans Mel Brooks.
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You have to rerun your numbering applet to recreate the list.  Go to 'Collection' > 'Reassign Coll. Numbers' > check the 'Reassign All Collection Numbers' button and the 'Order By: Titles' button - those two only > 'OK'.

That will reorder the list using Sort Title and make no other changes.

NOTE:  First make sure you have all your sort titles the way you want them using the Edit mode for each title.


If that is the only way then in my opinion it should be considered a bug.  If there is a field called "Sort Title" then it should be used automatically whenever the field is changed.  It doesn't make any sense to have to renumber the collection to have the titles properly sorted, it's totally illogical.
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You don;t have to do that. That is making a permanent change to the order which is not necessarily prefereable - certainly not if you keep things by purchase date - which most seem to do based on the online collections I have looked at.

This sounds like an bug/issue with the sort title - although I have not seen it before. Sounds like the software is not accepting the sort title change when you make it.

If you go back into the personalise screen after making the change, is the change to "Blazing Saddles" showing, or is it still showing "Mel Brooks Blazing Saddles".
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I just tested that.

I have the movies

Carrie (Which is the 2002 version)
Carrie: Special Edition (The original version)
The Rage: Carrie 2

My 3rd one was displayed with the movies starting with "R".  I changed the sort title to "Carrie 2" and didn't take its place in the list, I had to exit and restart the program.

Now "The Rage: Carrie 2" is listed after the other 2 but if I type "carrie 2" on the keyboard it doesn't get to that movie but if I type "Rage" then it stops at that movie which is actually lsited with the C's

I also have two tv series called "Grande Ourse" and "L'héritière de Grande Ourse" with "Grande Ourse" and 'Grande Ourse 2" respectively in the sort tile.  The same thing happens, if I type 'grande ourse 2" it never gets the 2nd one but if I tyê "L" it goes right to it (it's my first title startin with L)

Seems like 2 bugs here.

1: Sort title not immediately taken into consideration (need to restart)
2: When typing titles in the collection list, the program uses the Title instead of Sort Title. Which I think should not be changed permanently but become an option for every one to choose how they want it to behave.
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I would not expect the title to take it's place in the list immediately - no changes you make to this. For example if you have your list sorted by release date and change the release date it does not move immediately. You have to redo the sort by clicking the column header twice to do so. I don't see that as an issue.

However the other one is really strange. Does a database repair resolve it?
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I just tried the repair and it didn't fix it.  I don't think it's a problem anyhwere with the data, it really seems to be the way the program works.
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Seems like 2 bugs here.

1: Sort title not immediately taken into consideration (need to restart)
2: When typing titles in the collection list, the program uses the Title instead of Sort Title. Which I think should not be changed permanently but become an option for every one to choose how they want it to behave.

Re: Bug #1
You don't have to restart. You can just resort the list and it takes the new sort title into consideration.

Re: Bug #2
Weirdly enough, it actually takes the OLD sort title into consideration. Diamonds are Forever had a sort title of "James Bond: Diamonds are Forever" for me. I changed the sort title to simply "Diamonds are Forever" (keeping the title as that as well) and it does sort accurately, but whenever I hit J it takes me to Diamonds are Forever (sorted among the Ds). I've resorted, restarted, changed the sort title to "Blah", and done everything else I can think of. It still takes me to "Diamonds are Forever" whenever I hit J.

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2: When typing titles in the collection list, the program uses the Title instead of Sort Title. Which I think should not be changed permanently but become an option for every one to choose how they want it to behave.


I would expect the search to always use the Title not the sort title since you are effectively making something up just in order to sort the film.

However what seems to be the problem is that it isn't using the title either - but an old version of the sort title.

Sounds like a bug to me..
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I would expect the search to always use the Title not the sort title since you are effectively making something up just in order to sort the film.

However what seems to be the problem is that it isn't using the title either - but an old version of the sort title.

Sounds like a bug to me..


For me it's only logical that if I want my titles sorted in a specific order I would also want them to highlited in that order when I type letters on the keyboard but as I said, that's for me, I'm sure others prefer it the way it is now, that's why I sais it should be an option to have the "as you type" search match the sort order.
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I seem to be having this problem as well - when I press "T", I am taken to "The Abominable Dr Phibes" - I presume because of the "The".
However when I edit the DVD title and remove the "The" and press "T" again, I am taken to "The Addams Family" next.
So editing the title does seem to make a difference for me, however it would be much more useful if this feature used the sort title instead of the DVD title.
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I seem to be having this problem as well - when I press "T", I am taken to "The Abominable Dr Phibes" - I presume because of the "The".
However when I edit the DVD title and remove the "The" and press "T" again, I am taken to "The Addams Family" next.
So editing the title does seem to make a difference for me, however it would be much more useful if this feature used the sort title instead of the DVD title.


In this case though if you typed Abo... you would have been taken to the correct title.  DVDP seems to be able to find a title with or without the article.  For instance, if I type "Rag" or "The ra" I end up on "The Rage: Carrie 2" on both.
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I think that's a slightly different issue. What's happening there is the search is only looking for matches from the start of the field. Have you tried ticking "substring search"? That should make it find matches whether the info typed is at the start, middle or end.
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