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Registered: March 18, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 2,550 |
| Posted: | | | | I've seen the stunts listed with the cast in several instances but have always considered them part of the crew. This recently came up in a contribution (for The Interpreter) and was wondering what should be done.
Technically, they are sometimes listed with the cast but they don't play characters but, IMO, logically they are part of the crew. |
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Registered: March 13, 2007 | Posts: 4,596 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting TheMovieman: Quote: I've seen the stunts listed with the cast in several instances but have always considered them part of the crew. This recently came up in a contribution (for The Interpreter) and was wondering what should be done.
Technically, they are sometimes listed with the cast but they don't play characters but, IMO, logically they are part of the crew. I feel the same way...but, if there is no space seperating them from the regular cast list, then they must be included as part of the cast. | | | My WebGenDVD online Collection |
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Registered: May 29, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 3,475 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting TheMovieman: Quote: I've seen the stunts listed with the cast in several instances but have always considered them part of the crew. This recently came up in a contribution (for The Interpreter) and was wondering what should be done.
Technically, they are sometimes listed with the cast but they don't play characters but, IMO, logically they are part of the crew. duplicate - sorry | | | Last edited: by Kathy |
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Registered: March 13, 2007 | Posts: 1,242 |
| Posted: | | | | I'm sure I've read somewhere that if it's Actor Actor Stunt Stunt Actor Actor
they are included...but if it's
Actor Actor Stunt Stunt other crew
they aren't.
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Registered: May 29, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 3,475 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting Kathy: Quote: Quoting TheMovieman:
Quote: I've seen the stunts listed with the cast in several instances but have always considered them part of the crew. This recently came up in a contribution (for The Interpreter) and was wondering what should be done.
Technically, they are sometimes listed with the cast but they don't play characters but, IMO, logically they are part of the crew.
I wondered the same but the rules say to list "actor’s Name and the Role that they played" which is why I voted yes. There is no "role" per say, the name is just followed by "stunts". Is stunts considered a role? Also, if this is correct and stunts should be eliminated, would the "source" be the rules? |
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Registered: March 13, 2007 | Posts: 2,694 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting Kathy: Quote: Quoting Kathy:
Quote: Quoting TheMovieman:
Quote: I've seen the stunts listed with the cast in several instances but have always considered them part of the crew. This recently came up in a contribution (for The Interpreter) and was wondering what should be done.
Technically, they are sometimes listed with the cast but they don't play characters but, IMO, logically they are part of the crew.
I wondered the same but the rules say to list "actor’s Name and the Role that they played" which is why I voted yes. There is no "role" per say, the name is just followed by "stunts". Is stunts considered a role? Also, if this is correct and stunts should be eliminated, would the "source" be the rules? If the stunt players are an integral part of the cast list - same font, same spacing, etc., then they are to be included. If there is gap between actors and stunt people, or a change of font, then they aren't. | | | John
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Registered: March 14, 2007 | Posts: 2,366 |
| Posted: | | | | No, stunting with Cast & Crew is not allowed. Especially if they are part of the IMDb Stunt Team. | | | Martin Zuidervliet
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Registered: May 9, 2007 | Posts: 1,536 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting Kathy: Quote: Quoting Kathy: [ I wondered the same but the rules say to list "actor’s Name and the Role that they played" which is why I voted yes. There is no "role" per say, the name is just followed by "stunts". Is stunts considered a role? Also, if this is correct and stunts should be eliminated, would the "source" be the rules? What if the actor that the stunt is replacing ("playing") is listed? That's as good as a role, surely. | | | Hans |
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Registered: March 14, 2007 | Posts: 2,366 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting Staid S Barr: Quote: Quoting Kathy:
Quote: Quoting Kathy: [ I wondered the same but the rules say to list "actor’s Name and the Role that they played" which is why I voted yes. There is no "role" per say, the name is just followed by "stunts". Is stunts considered a role? Also, if this is correct and stunts should be eliminated, would the "source" be the rules?
What if the actor that the stunt is replacing ("playing") is listed? That's as good as a role, surely. You mean a stunt double. That's not a performance, it's just to make sure the actor does not get hurt or is not able to do. | | | Martin Zuidervliet
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Registered: May 29, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 3,475 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting Staid S Barr: Quote: Quoting Kathy:
Quote: Quoting Kathy: [ I wondered the same but the rules say to list "actor’s Name and the Role that they played" which is why I voted yes. There is no "role" per say, the name is just followed by "stunts". Is stunts considered a role? Also, if this is correct and stunts should be eliminated, would the "source" be the rules?
What if the actor that the stunt is replacing ("playing") is listed? That's as good as a role, surely. I'm sooo confused! Personally I feel that people who perform the stunts should be included - the movie would not be the same without them. I changed my vote to neutral until I understand the rule correctly and can make the correct choice. |
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Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 13,202 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting Kathy: Quote: I'm sooo confused! Personally I feel that people who perform the stunts should be included - the movie would not be the same without them. I changed my vote to neutral until I understand the rule correctly and can make the correct choice. Snarbo's example is spot on. If the stunt people are included in the cast list, they are entered into the profile. If they are not, they do not. It doesn't matter how they are credited, it only matters where. I hope that helps. | | | No dictator, no invader can hold an imprisoned population by force of arms forever. There is no greater power in the universe than the need for freedom. Against this power, governments and tyrants and armies cannot stand. The Centauri learned this lesson once. We will teach it to them again. Though it take a thousand years, we will be free. - Citizen G'Kar |
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Registered: March 13, 2007 | Posts: 21,610 |
| Posted: | | | | Generally, Kathy stunt people are not part of the Cast, they are USUALLY spearated from the cast and in their own listing. There are occassions where the stunt, or some of them, are actually a part of the cast listing. I don't like it, but it is what it is and in those cases they are part of the Cast. What snarbo referred to was derived from reporting what we went through with Stunts on the last Rules rewrite which was never published.<shrugs>
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Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 20,111 |
| Posted: | | | | When recently doing the Dead Silence credits, the end credits list quite a few "Stunts" credits (even a Stunt Coordinator) sandwiched in with the Actors with no breaks, and a couple of normal credits after them. | | | Corey |
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Registered: March 13, 2007 | Posts: 21,610 |
| Posted: | | | | Uhh yep, have i told you lately how much I hate Hollywood.
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Registered: March 13, 2007 | Posts: 1,242 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting Touti: Quote: Snarbo's example is good but it left one possibility out.
Actor Actor Stunt Stunt
Crew
Should they be considered part of the cast ? No. As I stated earlier I did read in one of the forum's somewhere Actor Actor Stunt Stunt Actor Actor they are credited Actor Actor Stunt Stunt other crew or Actor Actor Stunt Stunt Crew they are not. second NOT example is basically the same as the first NOT example. Steve |
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