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AFI's second 100 Best List - do you agree? |
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Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 5,494 |
| Posted: | | | | Last nights CBS TV special of the AFI top 100 of the past 100 years - 10th anniversary was a no brainer but interesting to see that again Citizen Kane again came in number one. The dvd of that title also has Roger Ebert and Peter Bogdanovich seperately on commentary., Recommended but voted number one twice in ten years?? 1 CITIZEN KANE 2 GODFATHER, THE 3 CASABLANCA 4 RAGING BULL 5 SINGIN' IN THE RAIN 6 GONE WITH THE WIND 7 LAWRENCE OF ARABIA 8 SCHINDLER'S LIST 9 VERTIGO 10 WIZARD OF OZ, THE 11 CITY LIGHTS 12 SEARCHERS, THE 13 STAR WARS 14 PSYCHO 15 2001: A SPACE ODYSSEY 16 SUNSET BLVD. 17 GRADUATE, THE 18 GENERAL, THE 19 ON THE WATERFRONT 20 IT'S A WONDERFUL LIFE 21 CHINATOWN 22 SOME LIKE IT HOT 23 GRAPES OF WRATH, THE 24 E.T. THE EXTRA-TERRESTRIAL 25 TO KILL A MOCKINGBIRD 26 MR. SMITH GOES TO WASHINGTON 27 HIGH NOON 28 ALL ABOUT EVE 29 DOUBLE INDEMNITY 30 APOCALYPSE NOW 31 MALTESE FALCON, THE 32 GODFATHER PART II, THE 33 ONE FLEW OVER THE CUCKOO'S NEST 34 SNOW WHITE AND THE SEVEN DWARFS 35 ANNIE HALL 36 BRIDGE ON THE RIVER KWAI, THE 37 BEST YEARS OF OUR LIVES, THE 38 TREASURE OF THE SIERRA MADRE, THE 39 DR. STRANGELOVE 40 SOUND OF MUSIC, THE 41 KING KONG 42 BONNIE AND CLYDE 43 MIDNIGHT COWBOY 44 PHILADELPHIA STORY, THE 45 SHANE 46 IT HAPPENED ONE NIGHT 47 STREETCAR NAMED DESIRE, A 48 REAR WINDOW 49 INTOLERANCE 50 LORD OF THE RINGS: THE FELLOWSHIP OF THE RING, THE 51 WEST SIDE STORY 52 TAXI DRIVER 53 DEER HUNTER, THE 54 M*A*S*H 55 NORTH BY NORTHWEST 56 JAWS 57 ROCKY 58 GOLD RUSH, THE 59 NASHVILLE 60 DUCK SOUP 61 SULLIVAN'S TRAVELS 62 AMERICAN GRAFFITI 63 CABARET 64 NETWORK 65 AFRICAN QUEEN, THE 66 RAIDERS OF THE LOST ARK 67 WHO'S AFRAID OF VIRGINIA WOOLF? 68 UNFORGIVEN 69 TOOTSIE 70 CLOCKWORK ORANGE, A 71 SAVING PRIVATE RYAN 72 SHAWSHANK REDEMPTION, THE 73 BUTCH CASSIDY AND THE SUNDANCE KID 74 SILENCE OF THE LAMBS, THE 75 IN THE HEAT OF THE NIGHT 76 FORREST GUMP 77 ALL THE PRESIDENT'S MEN 78 MODERN TIMES 79 WILD BUNCH, THE 80 APARTMENT, THE 81 SPARTACUS 82 SUNRISE 83 TITANIC 84 EASY RIDER 85 NIGHT AT THE OPERA, A 86 PLATOON 87 12 ANGRY MEN 88 BRINGING UP BABY 89 SIXTH SENSE, THE 90 SWING TIME 91 SOPHIE'S CHOICE 92 GOODFELLAS 93 FRENCH CONNECTION, THE 94 PULP FICTION 95 LAST PICTURE SHOW, THE 96 DO THE RIGHT THING 97 BLADE RUNNER 98 YANKEE DOODLE DANDY 99 TOY STORY 100 BEN-HUR | | | In the 60's, People took Acid to make the world Weird. Now the World is weird and People take Prozac to make it Normal.
Terry | | | Last edited: by widescreenforever |
| Registered: March 15, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 5,459 |
| Posted: | | | | I'm always suspicious of polls like this, cos I get the feeling people tend to vote for the films they feel they should be voting for, rather than the films they enjoyed the most. And what the hell is Titanic doing on there? |
| Registered: March 13, 2007 | Posts: 21,610 |
| Posted: | | | | Doesn't surprise me that Citizen Kane is still number 1 at all. It remains the single best film ever created. I might quibble over the placement of some of the titles in the list but in general, itlooks right to me.
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Billy Video |
| Registered: March 13, 2007 | Posts: 4,596 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting northbloke: And what the hell is Titanic doing on there? I hope they're referring to the 1953 version of the film and not the tripe with Leonardo DeCrapio. | | | My WebGenDVD online Collection |
| Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 5,635 |
| Posted: | | | | I can think of no other film that I can watch as repeatedly as I can Citizen Kane. I find the film entertaining, beautiful, and deep with meaning. The history of Welles future as a director and actor was set during this, his first film.
Definitely my favorite film of all time. | | | If it wasn't for bad taste, I wouldn't have no taste at all.
Cliff |
| Registered: March 13, 2007 | Posts: 582 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting 8ballMax: Quote: Quoting northbloke:
Quote: [And what the hell is Titanic doing on there?
I hope they're referring to the 1953 version of the film and not the tripe with Leonardo DeCrapio. There's 3 titles (that I've noticed) for which they don't specify the version. Titanic, Ben Hur and King Kong. | | | My 4x4 Club: Club FJ Cruiser Quebec DVDP Français: Forum DVD Profiler Français DVDCOL:DVD Collectors Online Video: LG RU-42PX10 Audio: Sony DreamSystem DAVFX100W | | | Last edited: by Touti |
| Registered: March 13, 2007 | Posts: 4,596 |
| Posted: | | | | Of the Top 100, I own 50 of them. Guess I'd better get on the ball and get the rest . | | | My WebGenDVD online Collection |
| Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 2,293 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting northbloke: Quote: I'm always suspicious of polls like this, cos I get the feeling people tend to vote for the films they feel they should be voting for, rather than the films they enjoyed the most. Hmm, whilst I tend to agree I know I. for one, really enjoy some films which are absolute trash so, to a certain extent, it would not be correct to vote for ones you enjoyed most but those you thought were 'best'. Quote: And what the hell is Titanic doing on there?
For someone who just complained about people not voting for films they enjoyed most, and Titanic is a film that a lot of people (half the population it seems...) enjoy, I think you're trying to have this both ways! | | | It is dangerous to be right in matters where established men are wrong |
| Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 5,494 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting 8ballMax: Quote: Quoting northbloke: And what the hell is Titanic doing on there?
I hope they're referring to the 1953 version of the film and not the tripe with Leonardo DeCrapio. Yup it is the 1997 Titanic, ..,,, I was super surprised that 59's Ben Hur came in so high,, Maybe we are all getting tired of Chuck and his National Rifle stance.... | | | In the 60's, People took Acid to make the world Weird. Now the World is weird and People take Prozac to make it Normal.
Terry |
| Registered: March 13, 2007 | Posts: 45 |
| Posted: | | | | I was happy to see "Blade Runner","The Last Picture Show", "12 Angry Men", "All the President's Men", "Nashville", "The General" and "The Shawshank Redemption" get added to the list.
I was happy to see "Dances With Wolves", "My Fair Lady", and "An American in Paris" come off of the list.
Where is "Dog Day Afternoon", "The Sting", "L.A. Confidential", "Touch of Evil", and "Frankenstein"; and why is "The Sixth Sense" the only horror film (unless you count Jaws or Psycho), I can think of 10 more deserving?
All in all, a pretty good list: I own 75 of them; "Titanic" not being one of them... |
| Registered: May 29, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 3,475 |
| Posted: | | | | I watched the show last night, it was interesting to hear actor's commentary on which movies were inspirational or why they loved them. I wonder how the list was formulated - does anyone know who is involved in the voting process? I'm also curious to what the original list of top 100 movies were - does anyone have that list? I own quite a few of the movies that made the list and will be adding more to my collection - as if I needed an excuse to buy more movies! |
| Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 5,494 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting Kathy: Quote: I watched the show last night, it was interesting to hear actor's commentary on which movies were inspirational or why they loved them. I wonder how the list was formulated - does anyone know who is involved in the voting process? I'm also curious to what the original list of top 100 movies were - does anyone have that list? I own quite a few of the movies that made the list and will be adding more to my collection - as if I needed an excuse to buy more movies! all the info is here at this site.., in order to download the list to adobe you have to log in, but I believe you can view them on line. | | | In the 60's, People took Acid to make the world Weird. Now the World is weird and People take Prozac to make it Normal.
Terry |
| | Dan W | Registered: May 9, 2002 |
Registered: March 13, 2007 | Posts: 980 |
| Posted: | | | | Here is the original list.
American Film Institute Top 100 American Films Of The 20th Century
1. "Citizen Kane," 1941 2. "Casablanca," 1942 3. "The Godfather," 1972 4. "Gone With the Wind," 1939 5. "Lawrence of Arabia," 1962 6. "The Wizard of Oz," 1939 7. "The Graduate," 1967 8. "On the Waterfront," 1954 9. "Schindler's List," 1993 10. "Singin' in the Rain," 1952 11. "It's a Wonderful Life," 1946 12. "Sunset Boulevard," 1950 13. "The Bridge on the River Kwai," 1957 14. "Some Like it Hot," 1959 15. "Star Wars," 1977 16. "All About Eve," 1950 17. "The African Queen," 1951 18. "Psycho," 1960 19. "Chinatown," 1974 20. "One Flew over the Cuckoo's Nest," 1975 21. "The Grapes of Wrath," 1940 22. "2001: A Space Odyssey," 1968 23. "The Maltese Falcon," 1941 24. "Raging Bull," 1980 25. "E.T. ? The Extra?Terrestrial," 1982 26. "Dr. Strangelove," 1964 27. "Bonnie and Clyde," 1967 28. "Apocalypse Now," 1979 29. "Mr. Smith Goes to Washington," 1939 30. "The Treasure of the Sierra Madre," 1948 31. "Annie Hall," 1977 32. "The Godfather Part II," 1974 33. "High Noon," 1952 34. "To Kill a Mockingbird," 1962 35. "It Happened One Night," 1934 36. "Midnight Cowboy," 1969 37. "The Best Years of Our Lives," 1946 38. "Double Indemnity," 1944 39. "Doctor Zhivago," 1965 40. "North by Northwest," 1959 41. "West Side Story," 1961 42. "Rear Window," 1954 43. "King Kong," 1933 44. "The Birth of a Nation," 1915 45. "A Streetcar Named Desire," 1951 46. "A Clockwork Orange," 1971 47. "Taxi Driver," 1976 48. "Jaws," 1975 49. "Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs," 1937 50. "Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid," 1969 51. "The Philadelphia Story," 1940 52. "From Here to Eternity," 1953 53. "Amadeus," 1984 54. "All Quiet on the Western Front," 1930 55. "The Sound of Music," 1965 56. "M*A*S*H," 1970 57. "The Third Man," 1949 58. "Fantasia," 1940 59. "Rebel Without a Cause," 1955 60. "Raiders of the Lost Ark," 1981 61. "Vertigo," 1958 62. "Tootsie," 1982 63. "Stagecoach," 1939 64. "Close Encounters of the Third Kind," 1977 65. "The Silence of the Lambs," 1991 66. "Network," 1976 67. "The Manchurian Candidate," 1962 68. "An American in Paris," 1951 69. "Shane," 1953 70. "The French Connection," 1971 71. "Forrest Gump," 1994 72. "Ben?Hur," 1959 73. "Wuthering Heights," 1939 74. "The Gold Rush," 1925 75. "Dances With Wolves," 1990 76. "City Lights," 1931 77. "American Graffiti," 1973 78. "Rocky," 1976 79. "The Deer Hunter," 1978 80. "The Wild Bunch," 1969 81. "Modern Times," 1936 82. "Giant," 1956 83. "Platoon," 1986 84. "Fargo," 1996 85. "Duck Soup," 1933 86. "Mutiny on the Bounty," 1935 87. "Frankenstein," 1931 88. "Easy Rider," 1969 89. "Patton," 1970 90. "The Jazz Singer," 1927 91. "My Fair Lady," 1964 92. "A Place in the Sun," 1951 93. "The Apartment," 1960 94. "Goodfellas," 1990 95. "Pulp Fiction," 1994 96. "The Searchers," 1956 97. "Bringing Up Baby," 1938 98. "Unforgiven," 1992 99. "Guess Who's Coming to Dinner," 1967 100. "Yankee Doodle Dandy," 1942 | | | Dan |
| | Dan W | Registered: May 9, 2002 |
Registered: March 13, 2007 | Posts: 980 |
| Posted: | | | | I think the latest list accurately reflects the opinions of the current members of AFI and a bit of marketing on the part of the studios/DVD companies. Although it's an excellent film, how else can you explain the addition of a title like Sunrise? Until the DVD release, it was a fairly obscure title which very few of us even knew about. If Fox hadn't released this to DVD, it would not be on the latest AFI list either. Just wait till "Wings" is released (same production year and silent too). People have a difficult time voting for a film they have never seen.
This list is not at all surprising to me and I think it's a reasonable representation of the top 100 American films. Of course, my list would be a bit different but I'm just one person. | | | Dan |
| Registered: March 28, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 1,299 |
| Posted: | | | | There were 23 removals and additions between the old list and the new. They are:
REMOVED All Quiet on the Western Front Amadeus An American in Paris The Birth of a Nation Close Encounters of the Third Kind Dances with Wolves Doctor Zhivago Fantasia Fargo Frankenstein From Here to Eternity Giant Guess Who's Coming to Dinner The Jazz Singer The Manchurian Candidate Mutiny on the Bounty My Fair Lady Patton A Place in the Sun Rebel Without a Cause Stagecoach The Third Man Wuthering Heights
ADDED 12 Angry Men All the Presidents Men Blade Runner Cabaret Do the Right Thing The General In the Heat of the Night Intolerance The Last Picture Show Lord of the Rings: The Fellowship of the Ring Nashville A Night at the Opera Saving Private Ryan The Shawshank Redemption The Sixth Sense Sophie's Choice Spartacus Sullivan's Travels Sunrise Swing Time Titanic Toy Story Who's Afraid of Virginia Woolf? | | | Tags, tags, bo bags, banana fana fo fags, mi my mo mags, TAGS! Dolly's not alone. You can also clone profiles. You've got questions? You've got answers? Take the DVD Profiler Wiki for a spin. | | | Last edited: by Astrakan |
| Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 3,321 |
| Posted: | | | | It looks like I have about 50 of those. I have no problem with most of the changes. It's only some people's opinions, not an exact science. If they did it again next month, I'd expect the list to change slightly. And it's been 10 years. | | | Get the CSVExport and Database Query plug-ins here. Create fake parent profiles to organize your collection. |
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