Here is what the TV Series Rules say now...

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Individual profiles for each disc may be submitted if desired, but this is not required. Add these profiles to the box set contents of the parent profile. When submitting a change to an existing TV series profile that is currently a box set, do not remove the existing contents.

In either case, the cast and crew are to be entered into the parent profile using appropriate episode dividers.

So TV Series can now officially be contributed per disc by disc ID following the standard rules. But unlike movie boxsets you do not delete any info from the parent profile.

In the Rules Committee Forum thiis has been worked on to clear up some (though still in the works) but what it boils down to is for TV Series all info belongs on both parent and child profiles... and then each person is then able to just delete the info from the one they don't like it at locally.

As you can see above... Your contribution removing the info from the parent profile is against the rules as they are written... you can find these rules in the TV Series section right under the Boxset Section of the rules.

Maybe I don't understand your question... but... From the discussion where Ken allowed this and from the way the rule is written Packaging has absolutely nothing to do with whether or not it gets  child profiles. You make a profiler for each disc no matter how it is packaged.

My personal opinion?
I absolutely LOVE that now we can officially have child profiles for TV Series sets... I have been creating them every since the boxset option first appeared a couple years back.  It is in my opinion much more accurate with what we have... I can see exactly the amount of and which discs that each cast/crew member appears on... and the parent profile don't have to be what is in my opinion a cluttered mess.

but what it boils down to... for TV Series... yes you will have all the info in the master database multiple times... that way no matter which side of the fence you are on... you have the info you want. Then you can locally remove the info from where you don't want it.

I think the way it is written now is the best way to have it... keeps both sides of the fence happy.

If your concern is that the child profiles are done by packaging instead of by disc... yes that is something that should change as it should be by disc... not by package... but in my opinion the way it needs to be changed is to break the set down to per disc instead of per package.

Repter,

I'm one of the 'no' voters and I did because I followed the contribution rules. I agree you can add the child profiles, but why remove the information from the boxset. If you do this, you'll also have to do this with all the other series with the same package (Lost, Prison Break,..). I suggest you leave the information in the main profile like it says in the contribution rules.

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I'm one of the 'no' voters and I did because I followed the contribution rules. I agree you can add the child profiles, but why remove the information from the boxset. If you do this, you'll also have to do this with all the other series with the same package (Lost, Prison Break,..). I suggest you leave the information in the main profile like it says in the contribution rules.

For all clarity, I only removed them because I was indeed thinking in terms of box sets . So let me first thank you for pointing me to this specific TV-series rule. However, if I read the rule by the letter, it was still not clear to me whether it still applied or not, since it is talking about Disk ID child profiles specifically. That's why I asked my question here.
If I understand it correctly now, the box set profile is still incorrect. The child profiles should not be those keep cases, but the individual disks. I don't feel like touching that though... What I will change however, is copy the cast lists with dividers from the child profiles to the parent profile (the parent currently has one long list of cast members).
In the mean time I've withdrawn my erroneous submissions for those box sets...

Still have an additional question.
If I submit the individual disks as the child profiles instead of the keep cases, what image should I use for those child profiles ? Do I use the image from the box set, or do I use the image from the keep case they are in ?

You want to use the images of the Keep Cases..

When profiling boxsets... whether movie or TV Series... you should use the case that is actually holding the disc so if it is something with keep cases inside a slip cover... you use the keep case... something like digipak you use the same as the parent.

Repter:

The child profiles are also going to be disc level. This is not terribly difficult. I have not yet seen a Universal(the ones who use UPC on their TV children) with TWO discs(doesn't mean they aren't out there). The case is irrelevant, other ahan the piece of data it represents, if you think of how a digipak is handled, each disc gets its own profile, you now understand how a multi-disc keep is done....the same way. What do you use for Artwork, what do we use for Artwork with Digipaks, the parent, so each of the Discs uses the art of the Keep Case. I hope this helps you.

Skip

If this has been answered elsewhere I apologise.

If a TV show has double-sided discs should we:

A. profile each DISC
B. profile each SIDE

As an example: the first few seasons of Murder, She Wrote were all double-sided. I'm inclined to create a profile for each SIDE of the disc...but is that just going to confuse the issue?